View Poll Results: Is Redistribution of Wealth a valid exercise of Government authority?

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  • Yes, it is an essential component of modern societies.

    11 22.45%
  • Yes, it is not optimal, but a necessary function.

    13 26.53%
  • No, it is not a valid form of Government authority.

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  • No, it is neither necessary nor moral.

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Thread: Redistribution of Wealth.

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    Re: Redistribution of Wealth.

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    An often mentioned subject that I'd like to gauge DP's general opinion on. Is redistribution of wealth a valid exercise of government authority?
    I voted "YES," and it is because it is the duty of the gov't to create employment in areas of benefit to all. The "Service" economy is gamed to benefit the wealthy and sacrifice those without clout. It is time for gov't sponsored work programs that develop labor intensive industries and Ronal Reagan's embrace and encouragement of the "Service" economy should be acknowledged for what it was and that is, The greatest gov't mistake in history. That culpability must be shared with Bush !, Clinton, Bush-the first torturer, and Obama. but the original Teflon doofus gets the lion's share of blame. I am not saying, tax the rich and give it to the poor, I am encouraging a gov't policy that creates jobs, not billionaires. Screw those big banks.

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    Re: Redistribution of Wealth.

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    An often mentioned subject that I'd like to gauge DP's general opinion on. Is redistribution of wealth a valid exercise of government authority?
    Personally, the term "redistribution of wealth" is one I've always found very offensive - and for reasons as you've worded it - as an "exercise of government authority."

    Another poster asked what the term meant. I know what it means - driving it is the philosophy of a few that believes they have the authority, the right to take from some in order to give it to others (redistribute) - and that for the expressed purpose of achieving "equality" in wealth, equality in outcome.

    I am adamantly opposed to this philosophy for it presumes:
    1) The government has such a right, that such a right has been explicitly conferred on it. It hasn't. Nowhere in our Constitution will you find such a right explicitly or implicitly mentioned or listed.
    2) The government has such an ability, such that it can equitably take from some and give it to others. No one has such abilities.

    Government has neither the right nor the ability to equitably "redistribute" anything.

    A few in government however may possess the raw power to try, that is, to exercise the power it takes to forcibly take from some to [ostensibly] give it to others. Such an abuse of power however is inimical to the longevity of a free society. What inevitably happens is that the few in government with the power to forcibly take from some will do just that - but keep [the vast bulk of] it. Maneuvering under the banner of "equality for all" their machinations always results in a shift of wealth... to them, who end up being the only possessors of both wealth and power, and always at the expense of everyone else.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    So things like education, roads, hospitals, sewers, clean water to drink, police fire and rescue.......those things should only be available to the people who can afford it? The rich?
    I don't think he said, or even implied that. Roads, sewers, clean water, fire/police are what he was talking about for all are legitimate and explicitly sanctioned functions of government.

    Moreover, none of them have anything to do with the philosophy of redistributing wealth; nor can I imagine anyone believing roads, sewers, clean water, police/fire etc. are remotely associated with the philosophy of reducing inequalities in society.

    Taxation is for the expressed purpose of funding legitimate government functions, such as the above and are therefore necessary.

    Even certain "social safety nets" - while I agree some are necessary - are nevertheless unrelated to the philosophy of "redistribution of wealth" except perhaps as an excuse used by the few to sell the unsanctioned use of force they're seeking.
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    Re: Redistribution of Wealth.

    "Concentrated power has always been the enemy of liberty." - Ronald Reagan

    Redistribution of wealth is a necessary evil. The real question is; how much? IMHO, the current amount is approximately right. I don't think it should be increased. I don't think it's necessarily wrong for some people to have more than others. Some people won't be satisfied until we're all equally broke.

    "The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings. The inherent virtue of Socialism is the equal sharing of miseries." - Winston Churchill
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    Re: Redistribution of Wealth.

    NO! Redistribution of wealth kills equality!

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    Re: Redistribution of Wealth.

    I think it would be a necessary step to prevent another French Revolution from occurring, to say the least. I guess the first option fits me best.

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    Re: Redistribution of Wealth.

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    So the babies shoulda crawled out?
    If their spiritually-challenged mothers don't kill them in the womb first.
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    Re: Redistribution of Wealth.

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    If their spiritually-challenged mothers don't kill them in the womb first.
    Duck and dodge the core issue all you want, it doesn't make you less wrong.
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Redistribution of Wealth.

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Duck and dodge the core issue all you want, it doesn't make you less wrong.
    Hey, the issue is the accumulated sins of a culture over time resulting in the destruction of that evil culture. Left alone, the parents grow the children up and train them in their evil ways, resulting in more carnage. God stops the madness, and the innocent babies and others go to heaven, while the rest go down to perdition.

    As for the liberal-minded,

    "Liberal ideology leads [liberals] to invariably and inevitably side with evil over good, wrong over right, the lesser over the better, the ugly over the beautiful, the profane over the profound, and the behaviors that lead to failure over those that lead to success." “There is no such thing as a thoughtful liberal.” Sayet added that liberals are attracted to intellectualism, but “their beliefs have been stunted at the age of five. And this is not an exaggeration.” - Evan Sayet
    "Progressives aren't really progressive. They're regressive, all the way back to Sodom and Gomorrah." - author unknown

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    Re: Redistribution of Wealth.

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    blah blu blee blu blah.....yadda yadda foo foo.....
    Your screen name is the EPIC oxymoron.

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    Re: Redistribution of Wealth.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Your screen name is the EPIC oxymoron.
    What would you know about it? Nothing that I've seen.
    "Progressives aren't really progressive. They're regressive, all the way back to Sodom and Gomorrah." - author unknown

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