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    Re: Should cars have built-in speed limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by trollarc View Post
    Autonomous cars are supposed to be coming out (Nissan has made statements towards 2020ish) these could be made to travel the speed limit usually. They could put an emergency mode in to get people to a hospital, police, or fire station as quickly as they can. If you frequently run from the police, you would probably be better off in an older car.
    Maybe yu run from the police. But I was referring to running from a carjacker, criminal, rapist, or other bad guy. You had better be able to go faster than he can. If he's in an old clunker that goes 120 mph and you're in a new car that caps out at 65, you're a sitting duck. Criminals will have a field day.

    The govt is involved in so many aspects of our lives currently...including those stupid headrests that don't do a damn thing - that I don't think adding one more silly item to the list is helpful. If YOU don't want to speed, don't. It's that simple.

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    Re: Should cars have built-in speed limit?

    Aha. Indeed we are not that far apart on this issue, though differences definitely exist. Many jurisdictions won't even bat an eyelash at drivers going less than 5 over. Cops typically wait until the super-speeders arrive, which, unfortunately, they inevitably do.

    It's important to note who is at risk for dying in car crashes. As of 2009, car crashes are the number one cause of death for people aged 8-24, and the #2 cause for those aged 4-7 and 25-34. Just as in every other such study I have ever read, a clear majority of drivers at fault in fatal wrecks are male.

    Here is a recent study from the state of Florida. It is vague in terms of what exactly caused many of the fatal wrecks--they do mention speed, but generally in conjunction with alcohol use. Note that if DUIs would plummet and seat belt use would become commonplace, those two changes alone would significantly cut the rate of fatal wrecks.
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    Re: Should cars have built-in speed limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by TNAR View Post
    What I find immature is the pompous righteousness of complete strangers telling me they know how I should live my own life. Immaturity is the belief that a rule will somehow magically make everything uncomfortable disappear. Nullification is the way for liberty-loving people to throw the chains of servitude from their ankles emplaced by pretentious do-gooders.
    Driving on public roads isn't a right. If you don't comply with the customs of the road, people will die.
    So in this case, a mutual understanding of what is the correct way to do things, and what is unreasonable must be determined for the greater good of each member of society.
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    Re: Should cars have built-in speed limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by trollarc View Post
    Driving on public roads isn't a right. If you don't comply with the customs of the road, people will die.
    So in this case, a mutual understanding of what is the correct way to do things, and what is unreasonable must be determined for the greater good of each member of society.
    Liberty=/=absolute chaos and extreme risk.
    Driving on a public road is a right in my opinion. "The greater good" claim is a disavowing of individual human and civil rights.

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    Re: Should cars have built-in speed limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Driving on a public road is a right in my opinion. "The greater good" claim is a disavowing of individual human and civil rights.
    Interesting. When you literally own the road your opinion is law. On public roads public law is law.
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    Re: Should cars have built-in speed limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    OK, fellas, here is the issue: after having a speed limit of, let's say 80 mph, why are cars made to drive up to 140-200 mph? Obviously it would be illegal to drive beyond the speed limit.

    Question: Do you think cars should have built-in electronic speed limit, i.e. the computer limits the speed of the car to what is legal to drive?

    No doubt this could save thousands of lives annually and will prevent criminals from escaping the police (if we presume police cars will not have that electronic speed limit).
    What do you think?

    if motor vehicles can no longer speed, ....what will happen to cities and states, who can no longer collect revenue on fines for that offense?

    then governments will find other ways to extract the money from the people.

    more taxes, permits, higher fines for other offenses......governments are going to get their money....one way or another.
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    Re: Should cars have built-in speed limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251
    It is vague in terms of what exactly caused many of the fatal wrecks--they do mention speed, but generally in conjunction with alcohol use. Note that if DUIs would plummet and seat belt use would become commonplace, those two changes alone would significantly cut the rate of fatal wrecks.
    Here is my anecdotal story explaining my position:

    I went to Korea very early in my military career where it happened to be legal to drink prior to turning 21. Growing up in a rural area with not much to do, I had been drinking for many years anyway, but suddenly becoming "legal" was a pretty big deal so I abused it. (That said, from my perspective pretty much everyone over there abused alcohol.) When I got back to the States, I was still not 21 and it was very odd for me not to be able to go into a bar and have a drink. The law did not stop me, it simply drove it into hiding. When I finally turned 21 it was no longer a big deal and my consumption quickly turned from excessive to recreational.

    My point is that black markets exist solely because there is a demand for a good which has been deemed illegal by the government. The law does absolutely nothing to address the demand and simply forces it into extra-legal arenas. In actuality, illegality creates problems where none would have otherwise existed. For example, those involved in the drug trade cannot enforce contracts peacefully through courts or arbitration because of the illegal nature. So when contract disputes arise they must be solved through the use of violence.

    Traffic law is not quite as simple to recognize in this aspect, but the concept equally applies. Many people have died getting hit in crosswalks and at intersections because the law gave them the right-of-way. This removed the responsibility of ensuring safety from the individuals and they assumed the area was safe. These laws give people a false sense of security. People drive excessively with or without a law telling them not to do it. Without a law in place, however, every driver must treat driving as a fluid situation in which every other vehicle and pedestrian is a potential hazard rather than assume the other drivers will yield to them.

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    Re: Should cars have built-in speed limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Exactly, because nobody should tell me to turn on my lights at night, stop for trains, or do anything else that might reduce the risk of a collision. Give me a break.
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    Re: Should cars have built-in speed limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by trollarc View Post
    Interesting. When you literally own the road your opinion is law. On public roads public law is law.
    No, a slogan isn't a law.

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    Re: Should cars have built-in speed limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Have you ever tried to list out all your fears?
    Only to someone that has earned my complete trust. I can count the number of people that satisfy that criterion on one hand.
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