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Should cars have built-in speed limit?

Do you think cars should have built-in electronic speed limit

  • Yes, all cars ecxept "special" ones (police, swat, etc.)

    Votes: 11 11.5%

  • No

    Votes: 76 79.2%

  • I don't know

    Votes: 2 2.1%

  • Other

    Votes: 7 7.3%
  • Total voters
    96
PeteEU said:
Yes and why not remove the ability of the operator to do that violation by limiting the speed? Plus then there would be no need for powerful cars that can go 200 km a hour, when 120km an hour is the max allowed.. this means less petrol consumption, fewer accidents, less hospital expenses, and so on and so on.. Win win no?
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Accident rates actually decreased when the speed limits were raised. Speed also is rarely the actual cause of accidents. As to petrol consumption, well, when you start buying my gas, then you can tell me how much I can burn, until then, **** off Commie.
 
Summerwind said:
Some already do have governors. Is that what you mean, or one's that will respond automatically to the speed limit of each stretch of road?
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There are a lot of delivery trucks that operate like that, they cannot exceed 65MPH whether you like it or not.
 
Canell said:
Freedom doesn't mean you can do whatever the hell you want. I don't want to see cars in my mirrors driving 100+ mph like there is no one on the road. There is difference between suicide and murder.
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Uh, yes, that would indeed be the definition of Freedom. If you don't want to see that, then stay off the road. If you do go onto the road, then stay the hell out of the leftmost lane.

I have had two accidents in my life. Both took place while I was driving below the posted speed limit of around 50 kmh in both cases (one was in Germany, the other in Japan). One, I hit two pedestrians on a remote two lane road at around 12:30 am who were wearing dark clothes on a cloudy night while taking up one lane of the road. The other was due to a transmission controller malfunction that caused the car to spin out. I have driven in excess of 100 mph on thousands of occasions, yes, on public roads, not race tracks.

Safety is not a matter of speed, it is a matter of sensible laws that are adhered to and enforced. Germany has some of the best driving laws I've seen. Many states have laws similar to Germany's on the books, but no one enforces them or adheres to them.
 
TNAR said:
Even though I know to expect it, I am always disheartened by the seemingly large number of individuals who have a desire to restrict the actions of complete strangers. Why do so many people fear freedom?

Here is my answer:

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To offend their eyes and ears?
 
humbolt said:
Speed does kill,
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Actually, impact with solid objects moving slower causing the release of kinetic energy kills. Sudden deceleration sickness. Speed differential just determines the amount of energy there will be there if a crash occurs. Statistically, though credited a lot, speed is actually fairly rare as the actual cause of an accident.
 
Cephus said:
There are a lot of delivery trucks that operate like that, they cannot exceed 65MPH whether you like it or not.
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Yes, I know, but I thought those are called governors and from what I'm told above this isn't what they are talking about.
 
sawdust said:
I don't understand why people would advocate limited choices, limit freedom and restrict liberty. We need fewer but more intelligent laws that protect people without restricting the rights of others.
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The OP is from Europe.
 
Helix said:
auto enthusiast Helix : my Cooper already does have a top speed : 140 MPH. if you limit me to 80 MPH, i will subversively find a way to disconnect the device.

pragmatist, adult Helix : we'd be a lot better off if cars just drove themselves and were controlled by a central travel computer. example : next time you're stuck at a stoplight, watch how inefficient it is. drivers only take their foot off of the brake when the car in front of them does. imagine how much time would be saved if every car started moving forward the second the light turned green. i think that we're heading in this direction. we also need a lot more public transportation.

summary of the double Helix :

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I don't want his to ever happen.

Computers have been known to go crazy or get bugs and that would put the occupants lives in danger.

The human should always have control of every aspect of the car.

The car companies had better realize this and give back control to their drivers.
 
State rights > everything. Fed mandate for this is WAY overstepping.
 
Cephus said:
There are a lot of delivery trucks that operate like that, they cannot exceed 65MPH whether you like it or not.
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Most Semi-Trucks are also. But that is a policy and a limiter placed in the vehicle by the company that owns the vehicle or leases the vehicle. The also have periodic data fed back to central centers that monitor speed, location, maintenance condition and other factors.

There is a big difference between those and the systems installed on private cars. The best solution for a private vehicle would of course be to replace the rather junky engine management system that comes with the vehicle with a performance after market one. Say a http://www.summitracing.com/parts/acc-77010w/overview/make/chevrolet for example.
 
TurtleDude said:
anonymous polls suck

this is a no brainer. Of course NOT. There are times when you may have to go faster than the speed limit for legitimate purposes. what we really need to get rid of in this country are the nanny state control freaks who want more and more laws and controls on people. It is already illegal to speed in most cases. That's enough
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How about school zones at 12 midnight or in the summer.

Why would we want a car to slow down to 20 at midnight in a school zone?
 
Canell said:
OK, fellas, here is the issue: after having a speed limit of, let's say 80 mph, why are cars made to drive up to 140-200 mph? Obviously it would be illegal to drive beyond the speed limit.

Question: Do you think cars should have built-in electronic speed limit, i.e. the computer limits the speed of the car to what is legal to drive?

No doubt this could save thousands of lives annually and will prevent criminals from escaping the police (if we presume police cars will not have that electronic speed limit).
What do you think? :)
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I'm not a fan.
 
PeteEU said:
Yes and why not remove the ability of the operator to do that violation by limiting the speed? Plus then there would be no need for powerful cars that can go 200 km a hour, when 120km an hour is the max allowed.. this means less petrol consumption, fewer accidents, less hospital expenses, and so on and so on.. Win win no?
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Isn't this what happened in the communists countries?

The cars couldn't go over 30 or 40 MPH. Did that make the population happy?
 
I think it would be far more useful for cars to have a black box, which could be accessed only via search warrant or court order. That way, you can be held responsible if your driving causes an accident.
 
Mycroft said:
Sure...why not?

While we're at it, let's set cars to automatically disable the radio, cd player, cell phones...and let's not allow cars to accelerate too quickly. I'm sure...with a little more thought...I can come up with a whole bunch of other stuff. Oh, wait...don't forget motorcycles.
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Since you're more likely to be killed if struck while riding a motorcycle, we just ban motorcycles altogether. Think of the children!
 
shrubnose said:

We're not talking about governors here, we're talking about speed controllers - a totally different thing.
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It is the same thing.

The governor shuts down the engine at a certain speed. I would guess a controller would do the same.
 
TacticalEvilDan said:
I think it would be far more useful for cars to have a black box, which could be accessed only via search warrant or court order. That way, you can be held responsible if your driving causes an accident.
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Right, because the NSA always waits for a court order.
 
Cephus said:
There are a lot of delivery trucks that operate like that, they cannot exceed 65MPH whether you like it or not.
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That is true and I want the ability to pass those trucks.
 
shrubnose said:

We're not talking about governors here, we're talking about speed controllers - a totally different thing.
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How does the car know what the speed limit is?

The plot thickens.
 
TacticalEvilDan said:
I think it would be far more useful for cars to have a black box, which could be accessed only via search warrant or court order. That way, you can be held responsible if your driving causes an accident.
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They are already starting that.
 
Cephus said:
There are a lot of delivery trucks that operate like that, they cannot exceed 65MPH whether you like it or not.
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All of our Army trucks are like that, too. Thing is, that's 10mph under the posted speed limit.
 
Mason66 said:
I don't want his to ever happen.

Computers have been known to go crazy or get bugs and that would put the occupants lives in danger.

The human should always have control of every aspect of the car.

The car companies had better realize this and give back control to their drivers.
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it's almost certainly a done deal. we can't build enough roads to ease congestion right now; much less in the future. there is not enough public support for high speed rail. the solution is to run packs of cars close together, and to have a central system controlling the flow of traffic. i would be very surprised if we don't start moving towards this model.
 
TurtleDude said:
a silly argument. You confuse POSSESSION with USE. People like you tell us there is no reason to own a weapon that can fire 30 rounds.
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....30 magazine clip, in half a second ;)
 
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