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    Re: Should cars have built-in speed limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    OK, fellas, here is the issue: after having a speed limit of, let's say 80 mph, why are cars made to drive up to 140-200 mph? Obviously it would be illegal to drive beyond the speed limit.

    Question: Do you think cars should have built-in electronic speed limit, i.e. the computer limits the speed of the car to what is legal to drive?

    No doubt this could save thousands of lives annually and will prevent criminals from escaping the police (if we presume police cars will not have that electronic speed limit).
    What do you think?
    "Fellas"?

    And NO. Absolutely not. I want horsepower and speed and regard this as a safety issue. (I also dig it.) And I don't need the nanny state telling me how to drive/putting controls on me either.

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    Re: Should cars have built-in speed limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    No, they shouldn't. There would need to be some sort of cushion to allow passing safely and that sort of thing.

    And what about people who want to do legal racing with their cars on a track?

    The other issue is that to implement this, you'd have to have a GPS unit in each car so it knew where it was, and maps programmed to know what the speed limit was in that area. And they would have to be kept constantly up to date (which would be impossible of course).

    The last vehicle project I worked on had a system sort of like that. It didn't govern your speed, but it would warn you if you were going more than 10 mph over the speed limit. The problem was that the maps weren't correct, and there were several places where it would warn me I was speeding when I wasn't. There was one stretch of road I used to drive on it thought was 35 and it was actually 55.

    Yet another issue is that it would add a hell of a lot of work and cost to every vehicle produced with that system. Not all cars have onboard GPS and a cell phone connection, but they'd need them if this system was to be implemented. And because the GPS would have the ability to alter your vehicle's performance by changing the speed governing, it would have to become part of the OBD diagnostic standards, and that's adding quite a bit of diagnostics that would have to be calibrated to every car.

    All in all, no, it's a bad idea, and not worth the effort and cost. The majority of people don't speed enough that it's a significant danger.
    I like your idea.

    Another thing that I would find helpful is to find someway to travel through major cities. One does not need an expensive GPS system on each car; what would be helpful would be to simply give numbers or letters to the lanes and let the driver know ahead of time if he/she need to change to another lane to get to their destination. The semis are hard to constantly look over--especially if traffic is busy. The locals never have problems because they know the area.
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    Re: Should cars have built-in speed limit?

    My motorcycle is capable of 170mph I do not drive it that fast on the road EVER! I do however take it to trackdays where I can and do drive it to the maximum limits of what I am capable (I am not so good as to take it to the maximum of what it is capable or I would be in motoGP)
    Same for many people who have cars, the smart ones, not the Beibers of this world, take them to racetracks or actual dragstrips and enjoy them in a relatively safe and controlled environment where they do not put others at risk.
    Having said that, there are situations where it is safer to exceed the speed limit by a bit to avoid obstacles (deer, suddenly veering/crashing car) etc. I see no need to excessively exceed the speed limit ever.
    Often however the speed limits are more about generating $$$ though fines than they are about safety (Autobahn ring a bell to anyone?) So I don't see the politicians really being on board with this either as it would reduce the $$$ available and instead of a self imposed tax by speeders they would have to impose something on the people to make up the shortfall.
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    Re: Should cars have built-in speed limit?

    Built-in electronic speed limit...nonsense, imo.

    The German autobahn's prove that speed is not the problem, poor driving is.

    Autobahn - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Now, if you want to put speed limiters on drivers with poor driving records...fine with me.

    But not ones with good driving records.

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    Re: Should cars have built-in speed limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    Driving long distances is not illegal but speeding is.
    A speeding car is only danger to itself but all cars around. Remember the phrase: your freedom ends where my begins and vice versa.
    Inattentive slow drivers are the real danger, not those driving at higher speeds. Having driven the Autobahns of Germany, the only real danger was slow poke idiots who didn't pay attention to the faster drivers and wouldn't keep their lame asses in the right lane.

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    Re: Should cars have built-in speed limit?

    I don't understand why people would advocate limited choices, limit freedom and restrict liberty. We need fewer but more intelligent laws that protect people without restricting the rights of others.
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    Re: Should cars have built-in speed limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    I don't understand why people would advocate limited choices, limit freedom and restrict liberty. We need fewer but more intelligent laws that protect people without restricting the rights of others.
    Especially someone who claims to be a Libertarian. I think that, for him, it may be a personal issue brought on by some incident in his life.
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    Re: Should cars have built-in speed limit?

    auto enthusiast Helix : my Cooper already does have a top speed : 140 MPH. if you limit me to 80 MPH, i will subversively find a way to disconnect the device.

    pragmatist, adult Helix : we'd be a lot better off if cars just drove themselves and were controlled by a central travel computer. example : next time you're stuck at a stoplight, watch how inefficient it is. drivers only take their foot off of the brake when the car in front of them does. imagine how much time would be saved if every car started moving forward the second the light turned green. i think that we're heading in this direction. we also need a lot more public transportation.

    summary of the double Helix :

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    Re: Should cars have built-in speed limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    I don't understand why people would advocate limited choices, limit freedom and restrict liberty. We need fewer but more intelligent laws that protect people without restricting the rights of others.
    Part of the problem, especially with traffic safety, is that people believe skewed data generated by agencies with an agenda other than actual safety and finding out the truth of the matter.

    Here's one of the problems with the data they use. If someone is exceeding the speed limit, then speed is automatically entered as a causal factor in an accident regardless of whether speed actually played a part. If you are doing 45 in a 35 zone and someone pulls out in front of you and an accident occurs. Speed is listed as the cause of the accident, even if you could not have stopped in time if doing 25. Once it is established you were exceeding the speed limit, no other factors are even looked at most of the time and speed goes in the statics record as the cause.
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    Re: Should cars have built-in speed limit?

    Cars? One of mine is a rocket. Things happen when I depress the accelerator. Love it. I also know when it's safe to use that speed, and when it isn't. If you're not capable of making that judgement, you probably shouldn't be driving in the first place. Speed does kill, but it's the stupidity that precedes it that's the real culprit.

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