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    Re: Should cars have built-in speed limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ad_Captandum View Post
    Look, you've got to have some government. I reject out of hand any proposal that people do not need to be governed -- one only needs to look as far as Somalia to show how quickly that turns into warlords and ruin.
    Yeah and just imagine if we have flying cars some day. That would require tons of regulation to keep the entire system safe - you can't fly over buildings, you can't fly over peoples back yards, you can't fly close to buildings, you have to fly in the right altitude and direction to avoid hitting other flying cars, at the right speed, etc.

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    Re: Should cars have built-in speed limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    There are exactly zero legitimate reasons for any civilian driver anywhere to go faster than 90. At most, that is how fast their cars should be able to go.
    Some you care about just got injured. It will take an ambulance 30 min to get there and another 30 min to get to the nearest hospital. You decide to drive them yourself to cut the time until they receive perhaps life saving treatment. You have two vehicles to choose from, one limited to 90 mph, one unlimited. Which are you going to choose? Or do you believe there is no "legitimate" reason what-so-ever for an individual to act as an ambulance to save someones life?

    Now you know one legitimate reason for letting cars go faster than 90 mph, which is one more reason than exist for arbitrarily limiting a persons freedom based upon the actions of others.
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    Re: Should cars have built-in speed limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    The answer is to pick a car you like, treat it well and don't worry about what they are putting in other new cars. That is what I am doing.
    Or someone can finally accept that they can personally invest less the half the money of a new car into an older car and have better reliability and fuel mileage.
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    Re: Should cars have built-in speed limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Yes you're right, what you describe instead would be perfectly safe.....@_@

    They still cans start side by side and with the knowlege of what you just told me...that they'd recognize that one might clearly have an advantage...then those initial moments would be even more dangerous.

    NASCAR doesnt seem all that safe to me.
    Want to compare their injury/death rate per mile traveled to any city in the US?
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    Re: Should cars have built-in speed limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    You have two vehicles to choose from, one limited to 90 mph, one unlimited. Which are you going to choose?
    Limited. Imagine you crash (again) while hurrying to the hospital? Then you will probably 'finish' the one you're trying to save and perhaps kill yourself too or somebody else.
    80-90 mph is enough to drive somebody to the hospital. If you think the person won't make it in time, you should call a helicopter.


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    Re: Should cars have built-in speed limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    I'm going to dodge the question and say we should hurry up and develop automobiles which run only on auto-pilot. This would solve the issue in the OP, plus a significant number of other problems.
    This.

    Of course, government is trying to push what...Mars? And wealth redistribution (aka wealth inequality nonsense). Up to private business as usual, and I'm sure they will have to fight government every step of the way.

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    Re: Should cars have built-in speed limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    Limited. Imagine you crash (again) while hurrying to the hospital? Then you will probably 'finish' the one you're trying to save and perhaps kill yourself too or somebody else.
    80-90 mph is enough to drive somebody to the hospital. If you think the person won't make it in time, you should call a helicopter.

    Ok, glad I won't ever have to depend on you.

    Where are you going to land that helicopter? How long is it going to take to pre-flight it, get in the air, get it to the seen, land it, load it and then fly back.

    What difference does it make if a person is driving 60 mph or 160 mph, we have already explained, ad infinitum, that speed is not a common primary cause of an accident. Elements, other than speed, will limit how quickly a given stretch can be driven and whether an accident occurs or even what speed is achievable.

    I worked in a safety office for awhile. I've read through many, many accident reports. Of those, maybe 2 or 3 was speed an actual factor causing an accident and those were actually drivers/riders that exceed their abilities to control the vehicle. Given different drivers/riders, those accidents would never have occurred at even higher speeds.
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    Re: Should cars have built-in speed limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Massive damage? How many people do you think regularly drive over 85? Do you think being limited to 85 would make you decide not to buy a car? The need for a car would just evaporate?

    No, the auto industry suffered "massive damage" because they couldn't keep up with cheaper, more efficient, nicer looking foreign cars.

    The American Auto industry made big, powerful cars and federal regulations forced those to become ugly, get horrible mileage and the 85 mph speedos stressed the cars are no longer powerful. The Japanese and Europeans seized on the government basically outlawing our cars and favoring theirs.

    Prior to computers, retooling for a car was astronomically expensive. Ford was in the process of filing bankruptcy when the federal government gave them a 2 year reprieve on some of their motors.

    Having to buy a car and having to buy a new car are two different questions.

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    Re: Should cars have built-in speed limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Thing is, I don't trust other drivers in my area enough to support letting them drive much faster on the highways then they already do (anywhere between 65 and 90 MPH in the 65 MPH zone, for example).

    Hell I don't trust myself to drive safely at speeds around the upper limit of that range.
    There are few accident situations where a person would survive at 70 mph but wouldn't at 90 mph.

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    Re: Should cars have built-in speed limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Or someone can finally accept that they can personally invest less the half the money of a new car into an older car and have better reliability and fuel mileage.
    Not better mileage. The mileage per horsepower and per displacement cars now obtain is amazing.

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