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    Re: Should cars have built-in speed limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    You cannot have a residential street with no speed limit. Too much chance of someone speeding, losing control and killing a pedestrian or driving into a living room.
    A person can still be guilty of negligence even without a maximum speed limit.

    People tend to drive at speeds which they find comfortable and safe, regardless of the posted limit. Imposing strict limits simply creates an environment in which drivers are reducing their focus on the road and potential hazards in order to look for speed limit signs and watch the speedometer. This increases the likelihood of accidents.

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    Re: Should cars have built-in speed limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by TNAR View Post
    A person can still be guilty of negligence even without a maximum speed limit.

    People tend to drive at speeds which they find comfortable and safe, regardless of the posted limit. Imposing strict limits simply creates an environment in which drivers are reducing their focus on the road and potential hazards in order to look for speed limit signs and watch the speedometer. This increases the likelihood of accidents.
    I hear you.

    If it were me - I would bag speed limits everywhere. But my post you quoted was under the assumption that the masses would NEVER go for it.

    I am big on reactive laws in most cases.

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    Re: Should cars have built-in speed limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    But my post you quoted was under the assumption that the masses would NEVER go for it.
    Oh, must've missed that. Ignore my post then.

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    Re: Should cars have built-in speed limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by TNAR View Post
    Oh, must've missed that. Ignore my post then.
    No...it was my bad.

    My assumption was strictly in my own head when I typed it...I never expressed it as such.

    I am now explaining after the fact.

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    Re: Should cars have built-in speed limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tetelestai View Post
    I don't agree with him/ her, but, here in the US we are set up as individual sovereign states. The federal government is supposed to have limited power over the states. It's almost like we are 50 separate countries under one flag. kind of like the European Union. But the power of our nation is invested in state rule, even though our present admin is trying to override that.
    Putting aside the fact that your states are not sovereign in any way, shape or form (indeed you even fought a civil war over this particular issue), the question I was trying to ask was, why does the level of government matter to you?

    Surely you would either object to all government putting breathalysers in your car, or none?

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    Re: Should cars have built-in speed limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ad_Captandum View Post
    Surely you would either object to all government putting breathalysers in your car, or none?
    There is a renewed interest in "state's rights" in the United States. The two main arguments are that 1) smaller government is better than larger government or 2) the closer the government is to the people being governed, the better the government it becomes. While there are certainly many points in favor of these types of arguments, the fundamental fact is essentially the same. In this sense, I agree with you. No government should be allowed to dictate these decisions on the people or all should.

    However, there is something to be said of competition. If a national government was disallowed to make blanket policies such as this, the states would be able to compete for residents. Of course, as we have discussed at length in other threads, there are a myriad of reasons why people choose to live in certain regions. Taxes and government policy is but a drop in the bucket of reasons and cannot be used as consent for the policy at question.

    The logical solution would be to further subdivide the authority of policy determination to the county level. But once we begin to acknowledge the benefits of the freedom of choice and open competition, we must logically come to the conclusion that individual determination is the only morally acceptable method. Thus, no government ought have the power to dictate these decisions on individuals.

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    Re: Should cars have built-in speed limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by TNAR View Post
    A person can still be guilty of negligence even without a maximum speed limit.

    People tend to drive at speeds which they find comfortable and safe, regardless of the posted limit. Imposing strict limits simply creates an environment in which drivers are reducing their focus on the road and potential hazards in order to look for speed limit signs and watch the speedometer. This increases the likelihood of accidents.
    the only accidents I have ever had was going the speed limit or less.

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    Re: Should cars have built-in speed limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fruityfact View Post
    We got rid of the Articles for a reason; fought that one little war for a reason...
    We WILL take back our rights! You guys would have us in a dictatorship so that your historically flawed and failing policies can be enforced. Not on my watch!

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    Re: Should cars have built-in speed limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    Well, it was just a thought. The easiest way is to install GPS on every car and fine every speed violation, but I not a fan of that. Just want to make sure the car doesn't go faster than a certain speed for safety reasons.
    Are you saying you are driving on a twisty mountain roads with more than 80 mph?
    ONLY when absolutely necessary and when safe to do so. But that wasn't the what I was aiming at. Governors reduce the available power no matter what the terrain. If the car is going up a mountain, it reduces gear. When that happens, the RPM's go up. A governor doesn't work off the speedometer, but rather engine RPM's. So the governor wouldn't allow the needed power to go up a mountain at 55 MPH, which is the speed limit. It's a failed system.

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    Re: Should cars have built-in speed limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tetelestai View Post
    We WILL take back our rights! You guys would have us in a dictatorship so that your historically flawed and failing policies can be enforced. Not on my watch!
    What are you talking about?
    What rights have been taken away from you?
    What makes you think that people want dictatorships or countries to fail?
    Men do what they have to when they want to, Great men do what they have to, even when they don't want to.

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