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    Re: Should cars have built-in speed limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    I'll bet that 74 Dart has a 225 slant six.
    Actually I have a 1975 Dart 2 door with the slant 6, stick on the column and air.

    The 1974 is a 4 door, 318 V8, which is very rare here, auto and air.

    I am trying to find an exhaust manifold for the left side of my 318 and I can't find one. It has to be from a car like mine and almost all of the cars here had the slant 6 so it is very very hard to find

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    Re: Should cars have built-in speed limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Actually I have a 1975 Dart 2 door with the slant 6, stick on the column and air.

    The 1974 is a 4 door, 318 V8, which is very rare here, auto and air.

    I am trying to find an exhaust manifold for the left side of my 318 and I can't find one. It has to be from a car like mine and almost all of the cars here had the slant 6 so it is very very hard to find
    Ah, the good old 318.

    A quick internet search came up with nothing.

    Might be cheaper to put a set of headers on it.
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    Re: Should cars have built-in speed limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Ah, the good old 318.

    A quick internet search came up with nothing.

    Might be cheaper to put a set of headers on it.
    I have been looking for those too. I have the same problem, they need to be for a car like mine and not a Dodge truck.

    I can't have them shipped to Mexico, they are too big.

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    Re: Should cars have built-in speed limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    I have been looking for those too. I have the same problem, they need to be for a car like mine and not a Dodge truck.

    I can't have them shipped to Mexico, they are too big.
    Maybe something here

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    Re: Should cars have built-in speed limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Really if you want nanny-state control over speeding, that's the way to do it. Any navigator/GPS app in a Droid will know when you're speeding, it *could* notify a police server who then just fines your bank account and sends you a nice little text (the same program will send you another fine if you check that text while moving).
    Wow, that sounds a lot more terrifying because it's so much easier to implement! You just need a mandatory GPS on every vehicle (old or new). Then the police will know every single speed violation! The bad news is it will also know where you are (or at least your car) at every moment, which is the scariest part.

    What I suggest is much less sinister, imho. Like a door stopper - it just keeps the door from slamming the wall, That's about it.

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    Re: Should cars have built-in speed limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    Wow, that sounds a lot more terrifying because it's so much easier to implement! You just need a mandatory GPS on every vehicle (old or new). Then the police will know every single speed violation! The bad news is it will also know where you are (or at least your car) at every moment, which is the scariest part.
    If you want scary, look at the permissions your aps already have. You can be voice and video recorded without your knowledge at any time. Notepad/scanner apps have permission to send their contents back to the app's author. Bank aps will snap your picture when you make a transaction. Verizon is storing my making this post (I'm using my phone's hotspot).

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    Re: Should cars have built-in speed limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    To offend their eyes and ears?
    Ugly? Perhaps. Certainly not sexy like an Aston Martin. But there is nothing quite so manly as the sound of ridiculous amounts of horsepower in an engine that barely idles.

    European muscle is smooth, controlled, and swift. American muscle is abrupt, chaotic, and scary.

    I suppose it just depends on your taste.

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    Re: Should cars have built-in speed limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    a silly argument. You confuse POSSESSION with USE. People like you tell us there is no reason to own a weapon that can fire 30 rounds.
    I don't think so, Turtle. Either cars should be produces as to fit the law OR the law should be made to fit cars (for example, setting different speed limits for different type of cars).

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    Re: Should cars have built-in speed limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    Well, what about if border checkpoint of country/state they can set you car computer to the speed limit in that same country/state? The same could be done with race tracks - you enter - you get the speed limit electronically removed; you leave the race track - your speed limit is set back to what's legal in the state.

    Leaving aside the issue of most states not having border checkpoints (California is the only state I've been in that does), all vehicle ECUs (as far as I'm aware) are locked. You can't make changes to the programming on them without the vehicle shutting down, unless you want to completely reflash the ECU software. So the programming would have to be changed so that the speed governor could be altered externally. But then you run into the problem that if it's changeable by the state authorities, anyone with an OBDII scan tool would be able to change it as well. So it would be meaningless.

    Plus it would only stop speeding on the freeways. If the governor was a single limit, it would have to be set for the highway speed, so you could still do 70 in a 25, which is far more dangerous than doing 80 in a 70.
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    Re: Should cars have built-in speed limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Inattentive slow drivers are the real danger, not those driving at higher speeds.
    To be fair, some people driving at high speeds are a danger. Mostly young kids driving faster than they can handle. Occasionally it's people who're driving too fast for current weather conditions, like the idiots who think they don't need to slow down when there's snow on the road because they've got 4 wheel drive.
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