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    Re: Should cars have built-in speed limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Wrong.

    Governors control the flow of fuel to an engine for the purpose of regulating the engines speed.

    The speed controllers that we are talking about would control the speed of motor vehicles with some type of linkage to the accelerator.
    Stop! There are no absolutes,

    Many current vehicles have no throttle cable and are true fly-by-wire; there is no linkage.

    Most vehicles today AFAIK, are limited electronically for top speed - it is cheaper, safer and more accurate than manual systems.
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    Re: Should cars have built-in speed limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    The technology is still in infancy.

    Nissan did have a neat package where the car would find a spot in a parking lot and park itself.

    It also requires a 4G connection:

    I remember the test in the late '90s. I think the cars were Buicks or something. There were 4 or 5 cars front to back following closely in a middle lane on the LA freeway.

    I didn't see how this could work if anybody in one of those cars had to get off the freeway earlier than the rest.

    What if you get a call that your kid was hurt at school and you have to go NOW?

    When they take away control of the vehicle, many more problems crop up.

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    Re: Should cars have built-in speed limit?

    Nope, it violates personal freedom and is a symbol of the government getting to much control over someone's life.
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    Re: Should cars have built-in speed limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lovebug View Post
    Aside from a car parking itself, driving long distance quite more than I like to, I often wish cars would be programmable so that you could just sit, relax and arrive at your destination refreshed and ready to go, instead of red eyed, tense and exhausted.
    I think that is called a train or taxi or maybe a limo.

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    Re: Should cars have built-in speed limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    They don't need a black box on your car. The courts have already decided that the feds can slap a GPS beacon on it. Get with the times, man.
    I always just assumed they were tracking my phone anyway.

    Really if you want nanny-state control over speeding, that's the way to do it. Any navigator/GPS app in a Droid will know when you're speeding, it *could* notify a police server who then just fines your bank account and sends you a nice little text (the same program will send you another fine if you check that text while moving). If you don't sign permission for the state to do this, then you don't get a license to drive. Driving is not a right, after all. And to reinforce compliance, every licensed driver in the speeding car will be fined as if they were driving, because if the driver is speeding they should have stopped him. What's that? Not everyone has a Droid? Sounds like Obama needs to upgrade the ObamaPhone and launch another "people have a right to access information" campaign.

    That's how a nanny-state should do it, not with mechanical speed controllers.
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    Re: Should cars have built-in speed limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    What happens at 3 in the morning when there are not 5 cars to put together?

    Will the car be smart enough to drive itself?

    There are so many questions to be answered.
    five was an arbitrary number; i'm sure the number would be adjusted to meet flow of traffic.

    i don't know how i feel about it, honestly. i like to control my own car, especially in adverse conditions. however, i have probably spent years in my life stuck in traffic because someone hit the brake or because everyone can't figure out that when the light turns green, everyone all the way back should take their foot off of the brake at the same time. my guess is that cars will become increasingly self driving because of these problems.

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    Re: Should cars have built-in speed limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    I still have my first car which is very much like the one in my avatar.

    I would rather buy a 1970 Mustang or even a Falcon over a Fiat or any car made in Europe from the last century.

    Here in Mexico I just saw a 1975 Fiat X-19 for sale and the guy wants like $15,000 dollars for it. I just laughed. What a horrible car that was, and I had a few.

    As for the new cars, I don't really care. The are disposable and made to take you to work.

    There is nothing exciting out there and my cars will be on the road long after all the new cars are in the junk yard.

    There is no incentive to fix or restore a newer car as the cost is prohibitive with all the computer systems, so they will be junked.
    Snort! We used to call the X-19 a pregnant skateboard.

    Personally, I had the following:

    1971 Plymouth AAR Cuda, 340 4 speed with six pack induction
    1971 Dodge Dart Swinger, 340 4 speed with six pack induction
    1969 Plymouth Road Runner, 440 automatic
    Early 1970 Ford Custom 500 6 cylinder that I paid $80 for and drove for 3 years with no maintenance at all
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    Re: Should cars have built-in speed limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    I think that is called a train or taxi or maybe a limo.
    Nope, I like the comfort of my own vehicle.

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    Re: Should cars have built-in speed limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    I remember the test in the late '90s. I think the cars were Buicks or something. There were 4 or 5 cars front to back following closely in a middle lane on the LA freeway.

    I didn't see how this could work if anybody in one of those cars had to get off the freeway earlier than the rest.

    What if you get a call that your kid was hurt at school and you have to go NOW?

    When they take away control of the vehicle, many more problems crop up.
    You're preaching to the choir - no way do I want to be controlled at all.
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    Re: Should cars have built-in speed limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    I don't want his to ever happen.

    Computers have been known to go crazy or get bugs and that would put the occupants lives in danger.

    The human should always have control of every aspect of the car.

    The car companies had better realize this and give back control to their drivers.
    Good point.

    Remember the “runaway Prius” incidents from a few years back?

    A car as complex as a Prius isolates the driver from any direct control over the power train and brakes. You push the “gas” pedal, and you're not really operating the throttle on the engine; you're telling the computer that you want the car to go faster. Press the “brake”*pedal, and you're not really operating the brakes; you're telling the computer that you want the car to go slower. The computer manages the brakes, internal combustion engine, electric motors, and all the systems related thereto, in order to cause the car to behave according to the computer's interpretation of the driver's will.

    And sometimes, computers malfunction. Sometimes there are hardware malfunctions, or errors in the software. And in at least a few known incidents, such malfunctions have resulted in Priuses behaving in incorrect and dangerous ways.

    I think we should always be wary of any proposal that involves having a computer in a car that has the power to override the will of the driver.
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