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    Re: Do you believe we are currently being punished for giving gays equal rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by lka View Post
    They didn't want "equal rights" they wanted a law changed, they used the term "equal rights"to gain sympathy from the low information voter
    Sounds like you are saying you don't support the concept of equal rights regardless of who benefits from it. Is that accurate?
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    Re: Do you believe we are currently being punished for giving gays equal rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by lka View Post
    No a law was changed lol
    Did I say a law wasn't changed?
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    Re: Do you believe we are currently being punished for giving gays equal rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by lka View Post
    No a law was changed lol
    In many cases an existing - and bigoted - law was simply taken off the books.
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    Re: Do you believe we are currently being punished for giving gays equal rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Sounds like you are saying you don't support the concept of equal rights regardless of who benefits from it. Is that accurate?
    No, I think he was saying that he does not agree with the concept that equal rights requires gay marriage to be legal.
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    Re: Do you believe we are currently being punished for giving gays equal rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    No, I think he was saying that he does not agree with the concept that equal rights requires gay marriage to be legal.
    I was trying to get at a fundamental flaw in his logic. Changing laws so that they are no longer discriminatory is not a new concept.
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    Re: Do you believe we are currently being punished for giving gays equal rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    In many cases an existing - and bigoted - law was simply taken off the books.
    Government just needs to get out of the manage business, no tax write offs, no licensing, then people can marry whatever or whoever they want and to keep government off churches if they do not wish to marry anyone but straights. So yes remove marriage laws completely.

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    Re: Do you believe we are currently being punished for giving gays equal rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    I was trying to get at a fundamental flaw in his logic. Changing laws so that they are no longer discriminatory is not a new concept.
    Indeed.

    I'm not sure if he was referring to "equal rights" as a concept or as a law.
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    Re: Do you believe we are currently being punished for giving gays equal rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by lka View Post
    They didn't want "equal rights" they wanted a law changed, they used the term "equal rights"to gain sympathy from the low information voter
    Just like other races wanted "equal rights" in the 60s? After a Supreme Court case they finally had to remove the "Thou shalt not marry a white person unless you're white" laws. But, hey, by your standards I'm sure even that was still "equal rights". Anyone could marry inside their own race - what's not equal about that?
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    Re: Do you believe we are currently being punished for giving gays equal rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by NoC_T View Post
    If God were a homophobe, wouldn't homosexuals die of exhaustion from screaming in brutal agony?
    If god were a homophobe, why would he create a "mistake", being all perfect and such..unless..he isn't perfect...and doesn't exist.
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    Re: Do you believe we are currently being punished for giving gays equal rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by lka View Post
    Government just needs to get out of the manage business, no tax write offs, no licensing, then people can marry whatever or whoever they want and to keep government off churches if they do not wish to marry anyone but straights. So yes remove marriage laws completely.
    I have no problem with that at all. Civil Unions are fine by me.
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