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    Re: Are you pro life or pro choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    Nobody can make decisions instantly. According to the laws of physics that is impossible. It takes time.
    Instantly? What are you talking about?
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Are you pro life or pro choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Instantly? What are you talking about?
    Choice.

    You claim that a person can't make a choice to live, right?

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    Re: Are you pro life or pro choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    Choice.

    You claim that a person can't make a choice to live, right?
    No. I claimed a fetus cannot.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Are you pro life or pro choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    No. I claimed a fetus cannot.
    Why are you dehumanizing people in the fetal stage of their lifespan?

    Sure those people can make decisions. Just like you and me. I just takes them longer to do it.

    But I also realize that trying to argue that point with a girl who has chosen to "terminate a pregnancy" (AKA murder a baby) and any guy who has pressured them to do that, is usually a futile effort.

    It may be too hard for them to admit to themselves, let alone others that they did wrong.

    It's too hurtful for them to admit it.

    To those people I say...


    [Truth will set you free
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    Re: Are you pro life or pro choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    There is no shortage of humans and despite abortion being legal for 40 yrs....more women still decide to GIVE birth and there are plenty of people....dont need that drama.

    To me, to put up roadblocks that *can be avoided* in front of women who deserve to fulfill their own potentials in life...that is a great waste. These women are already born and part of society...how wasteful is it to insist they take a path that may damage that? It should be their decision alone. You basically tell them they are not as important as a fetus...an unknown that may miscarry or have defects. Is that how you make important decisions in your own life? Risking the known for the unknown?

    Just to *believe* that strangers or the govt should have the right to demand a woman not have a choice shows a great lack of respect for women. A society of strong women CAPABLE of being good mothers speaks to great human dignity. They wont become that if they have unwanted roadblocks in their lives.
    Well, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

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    Re: Are you pro life or pro choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    Why are you dehumanizing people in the fetal stage of their lifespan? Sure those people can make decisions. Just like you and me. I just takes them longer to do it. But I also realize that trying to argue that point with a girl who has chosen to "terminate a pregnancy" (AKA murder a baby) and any guy who has pressured them to do that, is futile. It may be too hard for them to admit to themselves, let alone others that they did wrong. It's too hurtful for them to admit it. To those people I say... [Truth will set you free
    False arguments and poor tactics.

    First the fetus is not dehumanized, it is a fetus. No a fetus doesn't have the capability to make a decision and we accept that in the born who have mental defects that render they mental state below the level on consent- are you saying small children are capable of consenting to sex? Is that 'dehumanizing' children? Or recognizing the capability just isn't there.

    There is a series of stages a fetus goes through before being viable. there is a series of stages a child goes through in mental capacity- you would know this if you raised kids and put up with the 'Why' or 'NO' stage. Teens and young adults are still in 'development' so claiming an early term fetus is a human and fully vested in human rights is absurd.

    And yes the truth will set you free....

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    Re: Are you pro life or pro choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    Why are you dehumanizing people in the fetal stage of their lifespan?

    Sure those people can make decisions. Just like you and me. I just takes them longer to do it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    This is just another common irrationality found in pro-lifers....and just written out by 2 people in the last 2 pages: that a fetus could "make a choice."

    @_@

    And this is a point you attempt to use to change (rational) people's minds??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Are you pro life or pro choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Well, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.
    Because I believe that women are more important than fetuses and deserving of respect for the choices they make regarding their own futures?

    Yes, we disagree.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Are you pro life or pro choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Because I believe that women are more important than fetuses and deserving of respect for the choices they make regarding their own futures?

    Yes, we disagree.
    Seems kinda selfish IMO, to put into nice terms that won't get me banned.

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    Re: Are you pro life or pro choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    Seems kinda selfish IMO, to put into nice terms that won't get me banned.

    You think fetuses can make choices....so your opinions are already in question.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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