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Thread: Do you believe brain death is death?

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    Re: Do you believe brain death is death?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    And who decides what those are? At what point should a person believe what they are told, since it is known people have been falsely told someone is "brain dead" in the past?
    There are nationally accepted standards that are very well known.

    Frankly, there is an entire criteria to meet before you can even consider testing for brain death.

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    Re: Do you believe brain death is death?

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    I challenge you to find a case that was pronounced in accordance with nationally accepted standards that has come back to "life'. I do not doubt there is malpractice out there.
    Again, the question was "pronounced" you have essentially asked me to provide evidence for an argument I never made.
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    Re: Do you believe brain death is death?

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Again, the question was "pronounced" you have essentially asked me to provide evidence for an argument I never made.
    Pronounced brain dead vs are brain dead? Is that what you are getting at?

    Can you explain?

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    Re: Do you believe brain death is death?

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Oh, sorry, I missed your link to the claim above...mind reposting it?
    My point is that misdiagnosis of brain death isn't unheard while the heart stopping is rather definitive.
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    Re: Do you believe brain death is death?

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    My point is that misdiagnosis of brain death isn't unheard while the heart stopping is rather definitive.
    Gotchya.

    But actually cardiovascular death is misdiagnosed as well.

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    Re: Do you believe brain death is death?

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    My point is that misdiagnosis of brain death isn't unheard while the heart stopping is rather definitive.
    So we stop every hospital in the known universe from declaring a person brain dead, when they have made diligent tests to determine such...because its not unheard of that it is possible that a person isn't?

    If you can prove that its more than "unheard of"...that's it's common place. Then I think you have an argument worth considering. Otherwise...

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