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    Re: Should employers have the freedom to hire/fire for any reason they wish

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    This strikes me as some sort of violation of law and common decency.
    However, chances are, that with the amount in question, it'd not be pursued legally, as it wouldn't be worth it. But that doesn't make it any more the 'correct' or 'right' thing to do.
    I would think it is borderline illegal, but for sure against decency.

    I also worked for a company that said they were ANTI union, and would do everything in their power to STOP unionization. This was a warning to employees, do not attempt to unionize, or there will be trouble.

    However, the wording of the phraseology was such, that it would probably pass muster, but the company's intent was very obvious.

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    Re: Should employers have the freedom to hire/fire for any reason they wish

    Quote Originally Posted by lawboy View Post
    I would think it is borderline illegal, but for sure against decency.

    I also worked for a company that said they were ANTI union, and would do everything in their power to STOP unionization. This was a warning to employees, do not attempt to unionize, or there will be trouble.

    However, the wording of the phraseology was such, that it would probably pass muster, but the company's intent was very obvious.
    Well, it's not a perfect system. Question is, can the system be improved in a cost effective manner? Engaging ever greater government involvement, and the expenses associated with that, I'm thinking not.

    In both of these cases, isn't the information of these company's behavior and policies spread throughout the workforce which they are trying to hire from?

    If so, then that would probably solve the problem on it's own, wouldn't it? People would stop applying to work there, or if they did, demand greater compensation during the negotiation process, as both parties have to be willing to engage in the employer / employee relationship willingly, and, with at will, either can sever that relationship at anytime.

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    Re: Should employers have the freedom to hire/fire for any reason they wish

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    If so, then that would probably solve the problem on it's own, wouldn't it? People would stop applying to work there, or if they did, demand greater compensation during the negotiation process, as both parties have to be willing to engage in the employer / employee relationship willingly, and, with at will, either can sever that relationship at anytime.
    With MILLIONS out of work, they have no choice but to submit to the "Iron Hand" of the employer.

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    Re: Should employers have the freedom to hire/fire for any reason they wish

    The greedy capitalist in me wants to say yes. Emphatically yes. But the greedy capitalist in me knows that us business owners aren't a bunch of saints and tend to misuse our power as much if not more than politicians, so regulations are a must.

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    Re: Should employers have the freedom to hire/fire for any reason they wish

    Quote Originally Posted by lawboy View Post
    With MILLIONS out of work, they have no choice but to submit to the "Iron Hand" of the employer.
    Well, at least only temporarily, until the next better job can be found.

    The job market, as do all markets, swings back and forth, and will swing back to employee shortage in the future at some point, I'm convinced of that.

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    Re: Should employers have the freedom to hire/fire for any reason they wish

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Well, at least only temporarily, until the next better job can be found.

    The job market, as do all markets, swings back and forth, and will swing back to employee shortage in the future at some point, I'm convinced of that.
    In the late 90's the market was COMPLETELY the opposite. Companies were virtually begging for talent. Crawling all over each other to get qualified people.

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    Re: Should employers have the freedom to hire/fire for any reason they wish

    I am for an individual contract. Which should specify the duties of the employee to the owner and responsibilities of the owner, in relation to the employee.

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    Re: Should employers have the freedom to hire/fire for any reason they wish

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil E Buster View Post
    In the late 90's the market was COMPLETELY the opposite. Companies were virtually begging for talent. Crawling all over each other to get qualified people.
    Very true, and often ended up with the least qualified employees, as most web related stuff on the resume's was utter BS.

    The job market pendulum does indeed swing. Next swing should be into the direction of the employee's advantage I figure.

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    Re: Should employers have the freedom to hire/fire for any reason they wish

    Of course not.

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    Re: Should employers have the freedom to hire/fire for any reason they wish

    Employment is two way contract. A contract ought to treat the two parties as equals. An employer already has substantial power by owning the business and controlling it. The employee needs the force of law to equalize the negotiation.
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