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    Re: Should employers have the freedom to hire/fire for any reason they wish

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    Not all employers are owners.
    So your question is about some manager not doing their job?

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    Re: Should employers have the freedom to hire/fire for any reason they wish

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    So your question is about some manager not doing their job?
    My question is about an employee not getting fired for refusing sex. Pay attention.

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    Re: Should employers have the freedom to hire/fire for any reason they wish

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    My question is about an employee not getting fired for refusing sex. .
    That is what the owner wants the manager to do?

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    Re: Should employers have the freedom to hire/fire for any reason they wish

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    That is what the owner wants the manager to do?
    I didn't say that.

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    Re: Should employers have the freedom to hire/fire for any reason they wish

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    I didn't say that.
    Then the manager is not doing their job?

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    Re: Should employers have the freedom to hire/fire for any reason they wish

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    My question is about an employee not getting fired for refusing sex. Pay attention.
    It should depend on the company "morals" handbook. In my opinion, there is no reason why an employer couldn't state, in such a manual, that competition is King, and that applies to everyone except truer socialists who don't have to care about any profit motive.

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    Re: Should employers have the freedom to hire/fire for any reason they wish

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Then the manager is not doing their job?
    Why do you support owners firing employees for refusing sex?

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    Re: Should employers have the freedom to hire/fire for any reason they wish

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    Why do you support owners firing employees for refusing sex?
    Because it is the owner's business? Because there are women perfectly willing to exchange sex for perks on the job? Because there is no way to know why the employer fired the employee? Take your pick.

    Any employer who would hire somebody purely because that employee looks like somebody who could be exploited for sex is scum. And if that employee doesn't work out in that way, well, it's a free country. Or something to that effect.

    No respectable woman will work for such a person for that matter. Should she be able to quit when she figures out that is why the employer hired her? I see that as her full right to do also. And I believe it would probably violate the prostitution laws in most states to write having sex with the boss as a term of employment.

    But we can split hairs all you want here. Yes, the nice guy keeps on the pregnant employee as long as possible. Yes, the virtuous do not discriminate on the basis of race, ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation, etc. But yes, there are creeps, vultures, bigots, and scumbags in the world and in our culture they too have rights to be who they are just like all the rest of us. However much the rest of us can hold them in contempt and feel no need to respect them.

    But regardless of whether he or she is a nice guy/gal, if the boss needs to fire somebody for ANY reason, it is his/her money, his/her place of business, and should be his;her right to do. Likewise he/she should be able to hire somebody who is the best fit for the position/organization regardless of whether such person fits some politically correct criteria.
    "I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it." --Benjamin Franklin 1776

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    Re: Should employers have the freedom to hire/fire for any reason they wish

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    A woman's employment should not depend on her using her body for sex. She's not owed a job, but she should not be prohibited a job because she's not a whore. For anyone to say otherwise is incredibly sexist.
    Lol...whatever pal.

    I am saying that an employer should be able to fire an employee for ANY reason - looks, race, height, sex, eye color, penis size, favorite sorts team, favorite color...ANYTHING...no matter how pathetic the reason.

    I have already explained why.

    You don't agree...I don't much care.


    Good day.

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    Re: Should employers have the freedom to hire/fire for any reason they wish

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    Because it is the owner's business? Because there are women perfectly willing to exchange sex for perks on the job? Because there is no way to know why the employer fired the employee? Take your pick.

    Any employer who would hire somebody purely because that employee looks like somebody who could be exploited for sex is scum. And if that employee doesn't work out in that way, well, it's a free country. Or something to that effect.
    But it's not a "free" country. It's a country which was run and exploited by white males for centuries. The playing field is not level and has never been level. And without protection of the employee, it can never become level.

    No respectable woman will work for such a person for that matter.
    No respectable woman should have to decide between providing for her family and her integrity.
    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Lol...whatever pal.

    I am saying that an employer should be able to fire an employee for ANY reason - looks, race, height, sex, eye color, penis size, favorite sorts team, favorite color...ANYTHING...no matter how pathetic the reason.

    I have already explained why.

    You don't agree...I don't much care.


    Good day.
    As long as you're willing to admit you support the idea it's okay for an employer to hold another's personal morality ransom for sex, then I think we both can agree we're not going to care for the other's opinion.

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