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    Re: Should employers have the freedom to hire/fire for any reason they wish

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    FYI, in the future, don't waste your time.
    awesome one of my fans

    do you have any facts that support his claims and prove the facts, laws, rights, and court cases wrong? Id love to hear them
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    Re: Should employers have the freedom to hire/fire for any reason they wish

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    I accept your concession
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    Re: Should employers have the freedom to hire/fire for any reason they wish

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    Facts can be misinterpreted though.

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    they sure can and i agree:flames
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    Re: Should employers have the freedom to hire/fire for any reason they wish

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    thats what i thought, you got nothing

    let me know when the laws, rights and facts changes and support you, we' d love to hear it

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    Re: Should employers have the freedom to hire/fire for any reason they wish

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    nothing yet huh?, let me know when you do, we'll be here
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    Re: Should employers have the freedom to hire/fire for any reason they wish

    They should be allowed to draft any kind of employment contract they want with any criteria for termination they want. An employer should be free to use their money as they want and an employee should be free to have a contract presented to them to agree too listing reasons for termination. So in essence, yes. However, it should be limited to a mutually agreed upon contract.
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    Re: Should employers have the freedom to hire/fire for any reason they wish

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    They should be allowed to draft any kind of employment contract they want with any criteria for termination they want. An employer should be free to use their money as they want and an employee should be free to have a contract presented to them to agree too listing reasons for termination. So in essence, yes. However, it should be limited to a mutually agreed upon contract.
    not sure i understand

    this already happens and i support it 100%

    Im totally fine with contracts that have moral clauses and conduct clauses etc etc if people sign that then so be it a contract is a contract

    but the difference is they still cant illegally discriminante who they offer the job too based on religion, gender, race etc
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    Re: Should employers have the freedom to hire/fire for any reason they wish

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    not sure i understand

    this already happens and i support it 100%
    No, it doesn't.

    A contract between two parties as described by digsbe would be completely dependent upon the preferences of the actors themselves, and only themselves. As contract law currently stands, regardless of willingness by the parties involved, certain things may not be legally contracted. For example, no matter how much I desired to do so, I could not hire out my labor for less than the minimum wage. The government acts as an interested third party even in cases where the two actors which are physically involved in the contract itself do not want the government involved.

    In other words, contracts between two consenting adults must be approved by Uncle Sam before it becomes enforceable. Thus, grey and black market contracts abound.

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    Re: Should employers have the freedom to hire/fire for any reason they wish

    Quote Originally Posted by TNAR View Post
    No, it doesn't.

    A contract between two parties as described by digsbe would be completely dependent upon the preferences of the actors themselves, and only themselves. As contract law currently stands, regardless of willingness by the parties involved, certain things may not be legally contracted. For example, no matter how much I desired to do so, I could not hire out my labor for less than the minimum wage. The government acts as an interested third party even in cases where the two actors which are physically involved in the contract itself do not want the government involved.

    In other words, contracts between two consenting adults must be approved by Uncle Sam before it becomes enforceable. Thus, grey and black market contracts abound.
    weird i believe i said that in my post, the part you left out, but thanks for repeating it and IF thats what digs mean hence my question to him lol

    but to address what you said, yes certain things should have to be minimally contracted or protected
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    Re: Should employers have the freedom to hire/fire for any reason they wish

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe
    They should be allowed to draft any kind of employment contract they want with any criteria for termination they want.
    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J
    but the difference is they still cant illegally discriminante who they offer the job too based on religion, gender, race etc
    These stances are not mutually compatible. If a contract does not specify allowable reasons for termination, then any reason is acceptable. This includes religion, race, gender, odor, appearance, or any other complaint. Illegality is only an issue when the government intrudes as a third party; the argument is to remove government as a third party and make labor contracts a solely immediate agent issue.

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