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    Re: Should employers have the freedom to hire/fire for any reason they wish

    For the record, if I could make money having sex I'd do that in a heartbeat. That being said I'd have a sign on me that says "I reserve the right to refuse service." That way, you know, it stay in a Lerxst friendly zone.

    This discussion is really spinning off into the "but why" zone.
    *insert profound statement here*

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    Re: Should employers have the freedom to hire/fire for any reason they wish

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    For the record, if I could make money having sex I'd do that in a heartbeat. That being said I'd have a sign on me that says "I reserve the right to refuse service." That way, you know, it stay in a Lerxst friendly zone.

    This discussion is really spinning off into the "but why" zone.
    Would be funny to see the turnaround that would happen in this thread, if a prostitute, in a legal brothel in Nevada, refused service based upon the person being in a protected class.

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    Re: Should employers have the freedom to hire/fire for any reason they wish

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Firing employees, or more specifically, rehiring and retraining new employees is very expensive. I dont think very many employers do it casually, no matter how legal.
    Depends on the type of work being done, how big the company is, what the job market is like, and many other factors. Many will allow themselves to keep crappy hires just to avoid firing someone, when their better choice would be to spend that extra money firing that person then hiring someone else, especially early on. Yet others will allow their personal feelings to decide their hiring/firing decisions, including bias, no matter the cost.
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    Re: Should employers have the freedom to hire/fire for any reason they wish

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    As long as employees can fire their bosses, i'm ok with this.
    You mean like privates should be able to order generals?

    What property rights do employees have to a business they do not own nor have any liabilities for?

    Should employees be legally liable for actions of a company?

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    Re: Should employers have the freedom to hire/fire for any reason they wish

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    You mean like privates should be able to order generals?

    What property rights do employees have to a business they do not own nor have any liabilities for?

    Should employees be legally liable for actions of a company?
    The more traditional route would be mutiny

    Nowadays the boss cowardly hides in board rooms

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    Re: Should employers have the freedom to hire/fire for any reason they wish

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    I'm sure it doesn't. But neither have you addressed my point that no matter how altruistic or well intentioned it might be, if the government has the ability to force an employer to use the employer's assets and resources as the government sees fit, then the government can force the employer to do anything and the employer has no rights at all other than what the government allows him/her to have at the moment.
    One more question, that's all.


    If you are a reservists and are called off to war, when your duty is over the employer must hire you back. Right or wrong. If not it seems like a slap in the face of our service men and women? Should the govt. be able to tell that company to hire them back?

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    Re: Should employers have the freedom to hire/fire for any reason they wish

    Quote Originally Posted by lawboy View Post
    If you are a reservists and are called off to war, when your duty is over the employer must hire you back. Right or wrong. If not it seems like a slap in the face of our service men and women? Should the govt. be able to tell that company to hire them back?
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    Re: Should employers have the freedom to hire/fire for any reason they wish

    Quote Originally Posted by TNAR View Post
    No.

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    So "tens of thousands" are out of work, nice for the economy?

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    Re: Should employers have the freedom to hire/fire for any reason they wish

    Quote Originally Posted by lawboy View Post
    So "tens of thousands" are out of work, nice for the economy?
    Actually, outside of the morals of it...it would not effect the economy because if those 'tens of thousands' come back and start their old jobs, the 'tens of thousands' they put out of work would then be unemployed.

    So, the unemployment rate would probably be the same either way.


    Personally, though I don't think the government should force employers to take back the returning troops if they don't want them back (or have no room for them).

    But - as much as I hate make work projects - I do think the government should offer these veterans some sort of nearby employment or a make-work project at a similar wage to what they had for a certain period of time...say 1 year.

    I just don't believe you can call up reservists for long periods of time and then expect them to completely fend for themselves once their active duty is over - even if they are mentally/physically fine. They are making such a huge potential sacrifice - the nation owes them a chance to get back on their feet if their previous job is unavailable.
    Last edited by DA60; 01-27-14 at 12:23 PM.

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    Re: Should employers have the freedom to hire/fire for any reason they wish

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Actually, outside of the morals of it...it would not effect the economy because if those 'tens of thousands' come back and start their old jobs, the 'tens of thousands' they put out of work would then be unemployed.

    So, the unemployment rate would probably be the same either way.
    What if they "downsized" as an excuse to fire them to make more profit, then simply did not rehire most of the positions back?

    This is not the same as the rosie the riveter days?

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