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    Re: Should employers have the freedom to hire/fire for any reason they wish

    Quote Originally Posted by Tetelestai View Post
    I agree to a point, but even the government misuses the law as you say was intended. Thus it has gotten to the point that it represents (even if unintended) racism.
    not government, PEOPLE

    just like in every facet of life

    there are crooked cops and judges too, we dont get rid of those breaking the law, not throw out the law

    bad teachers, preacher, coaches etc they abuse children do we ban all teachers, preachers and coaches? no we punish those who break the law

    theres no racism represented by AA/EO especially now because at this point it ties in with civil rights which benefits us all.

    only people that break the law and or people who dont understand the law and assume things based on bigotry represent racism.
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    Re: Should employers have the freedom to hire/fire for any reason they wish[W:126]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    Title kind of sums it up.
    Sure.

    Fire anyone for any reason you want. But if you don't have a good reason then you might not be our friend anymore.

    And that has consequences.

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    Re: Should employers have the freedom to hire/fire for any reason they wish

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    not government, PEOPLE

    just like in every facet of life

    there are crooked cops and judges too, we dont get rid of those breaking the law, not throw out the law

    bad teachers, preacher, coaches etc they abuse children do we ban all teachers, preachers and coaches? no we punish those who break the law

    theres no racism represented by AA/EO especially now because at this point it ties in with civil rights which benefits us all.

    only people that break the law and or people who dont understand the law and assume things based on bigotry represent racism.
    Well, I know this. My Dad was an experience marine fire fighting chief for a shipping company in Philadelphia. When that business was sold, he applied to the port authority in Washington DC for the same position. The person he was up against was straight out of college and had no real life experience,,, but he was African American. My Dad was told he was "over qualified" for the position. Now that, considering it was a public safety position, is just stupid. The kid was given the job because he was black... period. that IS discrimination, aided and abetted by AA.

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    Re: Should employers have the freedom to hire/fire for any reason they wish

    Quote Originally Posted by Tetelestai View Post
    Well, I know this. My Dad was an experience marine fire fighting chief for a shipping company in Philadelphia. When that business was sold, he applied to the port authority in Washington DC for the same position. The person he was up against was straight out of college and had no real life experience,,, but he was African American. My Dad was told he was "over qualified" for the position. Now that, considering it was a public safety position, is just stupid. The kid was given the job because he was black... period. that IS discrimination, aided and abetted by AA.
    3 things

    1.) link? proof? he was just given the job just because he was black?

    2.) if true, by definition that FACTUALLY was NOT AA/EO and if you can prove that happened it thats a crime and you know what makes it a crime? AA/EO lol

    3.) also nothing in your story was aided and abetted by AA/EO. AA/EO is a policy that actually tries to prevent the story you told

    thank you for proving my point though that many people dont know what AA/EO is and they simply assume things
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    Re: Should employers have the freedom to hire/fire for any reason they wish

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    I see...so you're okay with a woman being fired for refusing sex with her boss? I just want to know if this is really what you mean.
    Morally...no.

    Legally...fine.

    He is the boss of a private company. As I said, he should be able to fire any employee for ANY reason.

    And what if she is fired? She gets another job.

    She can't find one - the government welfare system keeps her alive and housed and healthy until she does...it's not like she will drop dead if she gets fired.

    Besides, why would she want to work for a guy who she does not sexually desire that keeps coming on to her? Me - I'd quit...it's called 'pride'.

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    Re: Should employers have the freedom to hire/fire for any reason they wish

    Quote Originally Posted by Tetelestai View Post
    Well, I know this. My Dad was an experience marine fire fighting chief for a shipping company in Philadelphia. When that business was sold, he applied to the port authority in Washington DC for the same position. The person he was up against was straight out of college and had no real life experience,,, but he was African American. My Dad was told he was "over qualified" for the position. Now that, considering it was a public safety position, is just stupid. The kid was given the job because he was black... period. that IS discrimination, aided and abetted by AA.
    I have to say this is not uncommon, there were firefighter that had more experience that were not promoted in favor of diversity, this was challenged and the white firefighters won the case. It's called reverse discrimination. Sadly discrimination remains in our society by all ethic groups. And worse yet, there are some that want to perpetuate racism to keep it alive that continuously claim racism the cause when it is not.
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    Re: Should employers have the freedom to hire/fire for any reason they wish

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Morally...no.

    Legally...fine.

    He is the boss of a private company. As I said, he should be able to fire any employee for ANY reason.

    And what if she is fired? She gets another job.

    She can't find one - the government welfare system keeps her alive and housed and healthy until she does...it's not like she will drop dead if she gets fired.

    Besides, why would she want to work for a guy who she does not sexually desire that keeps coming on to her? Me - I'd quit...it's called 'pride'.
    why is it legally fine?

    why dont you want her rights protected?
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    Re: Should employers have the freedom to hire/fire for any reason they wish

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    I have to say this is not uncommon, there were firefighter that had more experience that were not promoted in favor of diversity, this was challenged and the white firefighters won the case. It's called reverse discrimination.

    1.) Sadly discrimination remains in our society by all ethic groups.
    2.)And worse yet, there are some that want to perpetuate racism to keep it alive that continuously claim racism the cause when it is not.
    AWESOME!

    they broke the law and didnt follow AA/EO and they paid the price

    1.) so true
    2.) also true

    all of those people are part of the problem and not part of the solution
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    Re: Should employers have the freedom to hire/fire for any reason they wish

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    why is it legally fine?

    why dont you want her rights protected?
    Because a job is not a "right". Only a two bit socialist moron would think so. Oh, wait, nm, forgot whom I was talking to.
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    Re: Should employers have the freedom to hire/fire for any reason they wish

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Because a job is not a "right". Only a two bit socialist moron would think so. Oh, wait, nm, forgot whom I was talking to.
    please quote where i said a job is a right, ill wait . . . .

    oh thats right you cant cause you just made up and posted a lie

    and tell me that cool line about moron again?
    facts defeat and prove your post wrong again
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