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    Re: Which major religion has more insight into human nature?

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Absolute and complete forgiveness of human error is a basic precept of Christianity. Do you realize, in theory, Hitler could have been fully absolved of his sins, and be sinless before God with full glory and everlasting life (in heaven for those that don't get that)? How can any religion/philosophy top that in "accepting human error"?
    Yes, I do realize that. I doubt you'll find many Christians who believe that Hitler was "absolved" in any case.
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    Re: Which major religion has more insight into human nature?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Yes, I do realize that. I doubt you'll find many Christians who believe that Hitler was "absolved" in any case.
    I did not say he was.... but I do actually understand how he could have been. The choice was his, even in his dying moments. That is not something too many people can really wrap their heads around. True Christianity is not judgmental (it is of sin, but not of the sinner).... Too many people have a bad taste in their mouth about what Christianity is, as, after all, there are too many "christians" selling it.
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    Re: Which major religion has more insight into human nature?

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    I did not say he was.... but I do actually understand how he could have been. The choice was his, even in his dying moments. That is not something too many people can really wrap their heads around.
    Well, I can wrap my head around it, probably a little better than the average human, but it's a bit more complicated than just asking forgiveness.
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    Re: Which major religion has more insight into human nature?

    I don't know that any of them particularly do. They all are very good at talking about our better natures while encouraging us to act on our worst ones. Hinduism might be the closest, though. It's the only one that isn't centered on rejecting our physical existence in favor of a nonsensical spirit one, and instead says that we should strike a balance between the two. However, it also ordains racism, classism, and slavery as inherent parts of the universe, so it has a lot of crap to go with its good parts.

    Also, Judaism doesn't even get an honorable mention?

    Also also, the only theological model actually worth endorsing is that offered by the two great prophets, Bill S. Preston Esquire, and Ted "Theodore" Logan.
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    Re: Which major religion has more insight into human nature?

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    Anybody who has raised a two year old understands that we are not born good. Good is also a relative term, because what's good in man's mind may well not qualify as good in God's eyes.

    Christianity teaches we become positionally righteous immediately upon acceptance of Christ as our Lord and Savior for the remission of our sins. We cannot earn that and we do not spend a lifetime becoming good enough to warrant that salvation.

    Buddhism can't save anyone.
    I'm not going to get into an ideological argument with you my friend.

    You should do what works for you.

    Buddhism doesn't try to save anyone, it just tries to show you the nature of your own mind, which, regardless of what comes next, you are responsible for getting control of in this life. Do you disagree that you are responsible for your own mind?

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    Re: Which major religion has more insight into human nature?

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    In terms of sociology I tend to disagree.
    Fair enough...but I was talking in terms of use to humanity.

    Many millions have died and many, MANY millions more have been persecuted, abused, oppressed in various ways strictly because of their religious 'beliefs'; and yet there is zero factual proof that anyone was ever 'saved' at death.

    What a pathetic human invention religion was...especially the major ones.

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    Re: Which major religion has more insight into human nature?

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Fair enough...but I was talking in terms of use to humanity.

    Many millions have died and many, MANY millions more have been persecuted, abused, oppressed in various ways strictly because of their religious 'beliefs'; and yet there is zero factual proof that anyone was ever 'saved' at death.

    What a pathetic human invention religion was...especially the major ones.
    I'm sensing a lot of anger here....

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    Re: Which major religion has more insight into human nature?

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Fair enough...but I was talking in terms of use to humanity.

    Many millions have died and many, MANY millions more have been persecuted, abused, oppressed in various ways strictly because of their religious 'beliefs'; and yet there is zero factual proof that anyone was ever 'saved' at death.

    What a pathetic human invention religion was...especially the major ones.
    Actually, I am not so sure about that. My suspicion is that there was and possibly is an inherent advantage to having a religion for the group that has one. The fact that as good as every society in the whole history of mankind had a religion lends credibility to the hypothesis and could be seen to shift the responsibility of proof squarely to the shoulders of the sceptics.

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    Re: Which major religion has more insight into human nature?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Well, I can wrap my head around it, probably a little better than the average human, but it's a bit more complicated than just asking forgiveness.
    Yes, it is.... but much less complicated than most people would think for having lived such a wretched life. Of course, running with the hypothetical of a repentant Adolf Hitler who professes his need for a Savior; he could be welcomed into the Kingdom ahead of the "good person" who did no one harm, gave away all his money to the poor and never failed to escort little old ladies across the street.... just to make that head wrapping a bit tougher (not you, I know you get it... the generic 'YOU")

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    Re: Which major religion has more insight into human nature?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Also, Judaism doesn't even get an honorable mention?
    Judaism as a world religion is pretty minor in terms of the number of adherents. It would rank well below various animist religions, African Tribal Religions, and Sikhism.
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