View Poll Results: How inclined are you to follow immoral laws?

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  • I do not follow immoral laws even if the chances of legal consequences are high and severe

    4 10.53%
  • I do not follow immoral laws only if there is a moderate chance of legal consequences

    5 13.16%
  • I only ignore immoral laws if there is a small chances of legal consequences

    5 13.16%
  • I follow all laws, even if I don't morally agree with them

    3 7.89%
  • I do what I want!

    10 26.32%
  • other (please explain)

    4 10.53%
  • taco rootabegas

    7 18.42%
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    Re: How inclined are you to follow immoral laws?

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    only if it was tacos
    Rutabega tacos should be illegal. Otherwise you can pry my taco from my cold, dead hands.


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    Re: How inclined are you to follow immoral laws?

    Highly unlikely. Otherwise I'd rarely get gigged.

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    Re: How inclined are you to follow immoral laws?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Rutabega tacos should be illegal. Otherwise you can pry my taco from my cold, dead hands.
    good thing its taco rootabegas then

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    Re: How inclined are you to follow immoral laws?

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    I think its interesting because in our mythological context, we tend to think of an us vs them scenario. People vs the government, for example. When in our society, it ends up being people vs people, which flips the old model on its head. This is why, I think, in the past, politics had a definite trajectory, but over the last 100 or more years, we get mired in the same old questions. In a sense we are fighting ourselves instead of fighting another.

    What this means and how or if things will work out? I have no idea.
    That is an interesting comment with some insight to it.

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    Re: How inclined are you to follow immoral laws?

    I follow all laws because that's part of the social contract. If I disagree with a law, I will try to get the law changed, but until it actually is no longer in force, it is my responsibility to follow it, even if I disagree with it.
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    Re: How inclined are you to follow immoral laws?

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    Thats nice and all, but in a society with 300 million people all slightly different moral codes. There can't really be any laws with a moral foundation (even citizens like tigger are for murder). and because we are a republic, we are our own rulers, so that part of your argument doesn't work very well either.
    The legitimacy of governance comes from the collective right of self defense, that is born from the individual right to defend your life, liberty, and property, and so any moral law must of course follow it. In essence, if law is to be legitimate it must follow natural justice.

    As for your question, if a law is immoral there is a conflict between justice and law, and thus we have a condition of tyranny, and with it a lack of obligation to follow such law.

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    Re: How inclined are you to follow immoral laws?

    I really can't think of any "immoral" laws right now. To me, immoral laws would be something that forced a person to do something that would harm another. An immoral law would be like from Family Guy when Stewie took over and made laws like "you have to throw an apple at Peter Griffin whenever you see him" or "everyone has to get their milk from Hilary Swank". The vast majority of laws are not moral or immoral, but rather laws that we have decided are for the betterment of society. I don't really view it as immoral to drink or use drugs, but that doesn't mean that there shouldn't be laws preventing/limiting these to at least a degree for the better of society.

    And there are times when laws can be applied immorally by people in their enforcement, such as enforcing to the strict letter of the law no matter the situation.
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    Re: How inclined are you to follow immoral laws?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Generally those with no victim, save for offending the sensibilities of prudes. Drinking beer in public (say at a park or while fishing) is one that comes to mind. No, I am not condoning drunk and disorderly behavior - I simply see no harm in someone enjoying a cold beer on a hot (or any other) day.
    I think it is bizarre that laws like that exist. If people get intoxicated then fine or arrest them. I do not drink so it is no problem for me one way or another.

    I also do not see that as immoral anything but petty interference with the American public.
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    Re: How inclined are you to follow immoral laws?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    I think it is bizarre that laws like that exist. If people get intoxicated then fine or arrest them. I do not drink so it is no problem for me one way or another.

    I also do not see that as immoral anything but petty interference with the American public.
    Tbh, I suspect that a good number of our regulations and laws are primarily meant to bring in money to various governments and municipalities, in the form of fines.
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    Re: How inclined are you to follow immoral laws?

    About the only law I break on a regular bases is speed limits. I leave for KC tomorrow and will probably drive 80 mph most of the trip. I don't do any illegal drugs, I never drink more than 2 and drive anymore.

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