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    Re: Would we even be discussing the NSA...

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    From what I've read/heard, President Obama claimed he didn't know the extent of the "spying". If true, it's pretty hard to have a public discourse when even the President is in the dark.
    To be fair, I don't expect any sitting President to be aware of absolutely everything that goes on within their administration. Given the size and scope of government these days that's simply an unreasonable expectation. Not to mention that so much stuff started in previous administrations.

    Having said that, this particular President doesn't seem to know ANYthing that goes on within his administration. Not exactly a trend that fills people with confidence.
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    Re: Would we even be discussing the NSA...

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    From what I've read/heard, President Obama claimed he didn't know the extent of the "spying". If true, it's pretty hard to have a public discourse when even the President is in the dark.
    I don't believe that. Obama's first job out of school was with a CIA front company.

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    Re: Would we even be discussing the NSA...

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    This is precisely my thought, as well. Yet, there are people I know both here at DP and elsewhere that choose to take the President at his word when he says he welcomes the discussion.
    He probably does welcome discussion ... given the situation. Would we be discussing it if someone didn't bring it up again? Unlikely.
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    Re: Would we even be discussing the NSA...

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    To be fair, I don't expect any sitting President to be aware of absolutely everything that goes on within their administration. Given the size and scope of government these days that's simply an unreasonable expectation. Not to mention that so much stuff started in previous administrations.

    Having said that, this particular President doesn't seem to know ANYthing that goes on within his administration. Not exactly a trend that fills people with confidence.
    Not knowing exact or minor details about what goes on in the far reaches of government is one thing, claiming not to know the parameters of data mining at the NSA is not an exact or minor detail.
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