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    Re: Is the US perceived as weaker under the Obama administration?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob N View Post
    Yeah. They probably thought that Bill Clinton was in charge when they hit the WTC in New York and the Pentagon in DC, right?



    Some people will always be out of touch with reality.


    Their partisan filters won't let reality seep through.

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    Re: Is the US perceived as weaker under the Obama administration?

    Quote Originally Posted by RDS View Post
    Bush made it stronger for the US to be perceived weaker under the Obama administration.



    Bush helped Iran and hurt the USA by converting Iraq from a Sunni-controlled to a Shia-controlled nation.

    But I don't expect you to understand this.

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    Re: Is the US perceived as weaker under the Obama administration?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Ask Osama bin DEAD Laden about that, or all other terrorists killed in the past few years. Or Anwar Al-Awaki. Or Al-Rahman and all the other terrorist leaders killed or captured under Obama.
    Geeee there are more Bin Ladens in Iraq now than ever before and growing around the world, like Lybia who killed four of our own at our embassy. However according to Obama AQ is Decimated
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    Re: Is the US perceived as weaker under the Obama administration?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Bush helped Iran and hurt the USA by converting Iraq from a Sunni-controlled to a Shia-controlled nation.

    But I don't expect you to understand this.
    Did they hold elections in Iraq?
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    Re: Is the US perceived as weaker under the Obama administration?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Bush helped Iran and hurt the USA by converting Iraq from a Sunni-controlled to a Shia-controlled nation.

    But I don't expect you to understand this.
    Problem is Sn, Iraq was always a Shia-majority country. The US just took away the Sunni dictatorship. That act has led to a degree of anarchy and the domination of Iraqi politics by Shias, but perhaps those two things were somewhat inevitable in the longer term anyway.
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    Re: Is the US perceived as weaker under the Obama administration?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Bush helped Iran and hurt the USA by converting Iraq from a Sunni-controlled to a Shia-controlled nation.

    But I don't expect you to understand this.
    Sunni and Shia lived in peace before the US invasion.

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    Re: Is the US perceived as weaker under the Obama administration?

    Quote Originally Posted by RDS View Post
    Sunni and Shia lived in peace before the US invasion.
    I think the Kurds and Marsh Arabs might question how peaceable pre-invasion Iraq really was. The repression of minority groups and communities may not have been directly rationalised using religious terminology, but there really wasn't anything very peaceable about Ba'athist Iraq.
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    Re: Is the US perceived as weaker under the Obama administration?

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    That is a nasty thing to say. True or not.
    what is nasty? That I think how independents view the president is more important than how Republicans or Democrats? It is at least when it comes to elections. It is also true I think in today's polarized world of politics where what ever the president does or what stance he takes on the issue 80% of all Republicans will be against him or the stance only because he is a Democrat and 80% of all Democrats will be for him or the stance because he is a Democrats. The ACA is the same way. The republicans are oppose to it by a 89-9 margin, the Democrats are all for it by a 80-18 margin, Independents are against it 60-38. So one can safely assume that if one is a Republican, he is against the ACA, if one is a Democrat he is for the ACA, so it is up to the independents to decide if the ACA is good or bad.

    Name the issue and you will get abut the same bread down by party regardless of the issue. So to find out the true feelings of Americans, one has to look at independents and throw the two parties out of the mix.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Is the US perceived as weaker under the Obama administration?

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    Geeee there are more Bin Ladens in Iraq now than ever before and growing around the world, like Lybia who killed four of our own at our embassy. However according to Obama AQ is Decimated
    Try and keep things correct, firstly Obama said that the core leadership has been decimated during debates with Mitt Romney and later he said:

    while “core al-Qaeda is on its heels, has been decimated,” it has “metastasized” into regional groups that threaten the United States on a smaller scale than the original terror organization.

    Also, just because groups call themselves or operate in civil war struggles under the name Al Qaeda, does not make them terrorist groups that belong to the core terrorist organization called Al Qaeda.
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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    Re: Is the US perceived as weaker under the Obama administration?

    Quote Originally Posted by RDS View Post
    Sunni and Shia lived in peace before the US invasion.
    Being oppressed is not living in peace.
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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