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Is the US perceived as weaker under the Obama administration?

Is the US perceived as weaker in influence under Obama?

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Peter King said:
And why would that be? Who is to blame for that? President Bush started 2 wars with no payment plan in sight. He kept throwing money at his rich buddies and even richer corporate donors while the troops on the ground did not have enough kevlar etc. to save their lives from the bombs and the bullets fired at them.

Obama is having to clear up the mess left behind by one George W. Bush who was able to run the US economy into the ground with his spend and not tax policies. The democrats might be irresponsible with tax and spend but Bush was much much much more irresponsible by spending with no taxes to pay for all of his spending.

Obama would love to spend money for the military if it were all needed, but sadly, he has to pay for the failure to finance the US armed forces from previous administrations, most notably that from George W. Bush.

The materials made to print money might grow on trees and shrubs but the finances behind it do not. Obama is having to live according to his means and sadly with a refusal by the republicans to even contemplate real tax increases to pay for the past, present and future health of the US budget, there is not enough money to pay for all the costs of the military.
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I guess you are kind of young to remember but we had the biggest debt ever for the time after WW2.......All wars go unpaid for.
 
Navy Pride said:
Why after 9/11 were we never attacked on our mainland again under the Bush admin when it seems it happens everyday under Obama?
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Everyday under Obama? In what reality would that be? TeaPartyImaginationland?

The reason the terrorists did not have to do anything in the US was obvious, the US was doing it for them. They brought the troops these terrorist assholes wanted to kill to them. They murdered thousands in Afghanistan and Iraq.

And, I am sorry, but I am not going to blame 9/11 on Bush but I am also not going to praise him for stopping the attacks on the US mainland in the years that he was president. Al Qaida was waging war on US targets all over the world. The world went to finally taking terrorism seriously, good border control and better cooperation within the intelligence community might have helped for that but let's be honest, it was also the first big terrorist attack ever on US mainland soil in centuries. Boasting that it did not happen more is somewhat ridiculous because it was not very realistic to have happened ever again despite of Bush's actions or lack thereof.
 
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joG said:
It sure would help , if the man would explain more, why we use the robots and mine so much data and where we want to go.
Most of all he falls down on the Vison Thing. He does not lead well.
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I agree on the vision, but as for being a leader, here are a couple of polls. Most Americans think he is not. I gave you the total, then it is broken down between Republicans, democrats and Independents. I think how independents see the president as a leader or not is much more important than how republicans or democrats do. After all we know how the majority of the members of each party will answer.


Quinnipiac Poll asked Would you say that Barack Obama - has strong leadership qualities or not?
……….Tot…….Rep……Dem……Ind
Yes….46%.....18%.....82%.....41%
No…..51%.....80%.....16%.....56%
Fox Poll asked Do you think Barack Obama is a strong and decisive Leader?
……….Tot…….Rep…….Dem…….Ind
Yes….47%......19%.......78%.....37%
No…..51%......80%.......20%.....61%
 
Navy Pride said:
I guess you are kind of young to remember but we had the biggest debt ever for the time after WW2.......All wars go unpaid for.
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No, the presidents after that had to pay for wars started in earlier administrations, just like Obama is now having to do with the Bush wars. You can complain all you want about not having enough money for the military but try and put the blame where it belongs, the not-tax but spend republicans, the not-tax and spend democrats and the pork-belly politicians who push huge sums of money towards military project and weapons so that they can be re-elected again. That is where the money went that the military is now missing for normal operations but again, the sins of the past have caught up with the military and congress/the white house and tough choices are needed to pay for everything that is needed and as long as the republicans are only frugal during democratic presidencies this will not get better but worse. To pay for all those trillions in debt they have to learn a new word in Tea Party land, compromise and cooperation. Tax a bit more where possible and spend a bit less where it is needed is the way forward. Not in gridlock and more dis-functional politicians in Washington and around the US.
 
Cardinal said:
Rebuilding our infrastructure has essentially been taken over by the culture war. The culture war started out about relatively simple matters like abortion, gun rights and prayer in school, but like a super black hole it has expanded to include nearly every political topic I can think of. And once something is in the culture war all forward momentum comes to a full stop.

In short, we're screwed.
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WHAT???

Well since you brought it up WITHOUT GOD WE'RE SCREWED
 
Perotista said:
I agree on the vision, but as for being a leader, here are a couple of polls. Most Americans think he is not. I gave you the total, then it is broken down between Republicans, democrats and Independents. I think how independents see the president as a leader or not is much more important than how republicans or democrats do. After all we know how the majority of the members of each party will answer.


Quinnipiac Poll asked Would you say that Barack Obama - has strong leadership qualities or not?
……….Tot…….Rep……Dem……Ind
Yes….46%.....18%.....82%.....41%
No…..51%.....80%.....16%.....56%
Fox Poll asked Do you think Barack Obama is a strong and decisive Leader?
……….Tot…….Rep…….Dem…….Ind
Yes….47%......19%.......78%.....37%
No…..51%......80%.......20%.....61%
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These confirm what we have known for some time, he's a weak leader.

The world knows this-and apparently so does the US.
 
US Conservative said:
These confirm what we have known for some time, he's a weak leader.

The world knows this-and apparently so does the US.
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All this says is that even the polls are hopelessly divided by partisan opinions. It says nothing about how Obama is truly seen in the world.
 
Of course not.
 
Peter King said:
All this says is that even the polls are hopelessly divided by partisan opinions. It says nothing about how Obama is truly seen in the world.
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Plenty of polls have been done-Obama has a lower approval than Bush, even in europe and the middle east.

But I dont think its just partisan, if it was, the results of those polls wouldnt be as lop sided as they are.
 
I don't care how America is perceived. As long as she has the most powerful economy and by far the most powerful military - no one will dare mess with her.

But, I would be more concerned about the fact that America is probably much weaker overall then she was when Obama took over. Far more debt and a government/military industrial complex that just won't stop growing...far beyond America's ability to support on a balanced budget. And the Fed's/Obama's refusal to let the economy reset, forces it to continue down the road of mediocrity.

However, America was far weaker when G.W. Bush left office as well - but for somewhat (though not altogether) different reasons.


If America does not just let the economy run itself, end this paranoia about terrorism (though it seems to be slowly dissipating) and live within her means - this slide will continue, imo.
 
Nah.

You guys in USA like to turn two main rival parties into a pissing contest. But fail to see the bigger picture. From out here weakness is neither seen in your imaginary divisions nor in influence.

Best thing Europe has against China and Russia. You cannot be weak even if you wanted to ;) .
 
Helix said:
if "weaker" means less of a perceived empirical "superpower," i hope so. we have been the first world's pro bono army for more than half a a century now, and it's time to go back to being a country. it is someone else's turn to bankrupt itself on global police actions while we fix our damned bridges and improve the lives of average working citizens.

every empire collapses. some countries endure. seems like it's better for us to be a country.
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As in the early pre WW l 1900's as in "Speak softly but carry a big stick." ?

The world did glaze it's eyes upon America back then as being a country to be held in awe.
 
US Conservative said:
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As the worlds superpower, this is a question worth being asked.
Internationally are we declining in influence on the world stage?
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Do our enemies, rivals, and allies see us as weaker now?

Are we seen as stronger for having Obama as POTUS or are we seen as weaker since Bush's Presidency?

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What nation on this planet has more power and influence than the USA?

The simple answer is: None

Lots of people on the right complain about the USA's Budget and with the same breath demand more spending on the USA's bloated military.

Some people on the right will never be happy. If Obama made it rain cookies, they'd complain about a milk shortage.

The best thing to do is to just turn the volume all of the way down and ignore them.

They'll still be complaining about the same things after Obama leaves the White House and another Democrat takes his place in 2017 because the GOP has nothing good to offer the American people.




"The only valid censorship of ideas is the right of people not to listen." ~ Tommy Smothers
 
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US Conservative said:
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As the worlds superpower, this is a question worth being asked.

Internationally are we declining in influence on the world stage?

Do our enemies, rivals, and allies see us as weaker now?

Are we seen as stronger for having Obama as POTUS or are we seen as weaker since Bush's Presidency?

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As a Brit, I would say that the Obama administration seems weaker and more arrogant in how it treats its allies, rather than the US nation as a whole. The failure to introduce gun control due to 2 shootings (Aurora Cinema and Sandy Hook) was a failure by him in the eyes of 99% of British people, and Obama's general opinion of the British has been awful from the go. He pressured us to remain in the EU, he referred to France as the US's greatest ally and used the gulf oil spill to blame an imaginary company by the name of "British Petroleum" when it has been known as BP for years beforehand. The Obama presidency will go down in Britain as one of failure and insult for the most part. However, obviously the British public as a whole liked the ACA, and his policies on gay marriage and abortion, but that's about it. More anger is directed at the Republicans in "Socialist Europe" though, for obvious reasons.
 
shrubnose said:
What nation on this planet has more power and influence than the USA?

The simple answer is: None

Lots of people on the right complain about the USA's Budget and with the same breath demand more spending on the USA's bloated military.

Some people on the right will never be happy. If Obama made it rain cookies, they'd complain about a milk shortage.

The best thing to do is to just turn the volume all of the way down and ignore them.




"The only valid censorship of ideas is the right of people not to listen." ~ Tommy Smothers
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I didnt ask who has more influence, I asked if we had less under Obama.
 
Spriggs05 said:
As a Brit, I would say that the Obama administration seems weaker and more arrogant in how it treats its allies, rather than the US nation as a whole. The failure to introduce gun control due to 2 shootings (Aurora Cinema and Sandy Hook) was a failure by him in the eyes of 99% of British people, and Obama's general opinion of the British has been awful from the go. He pressured us to remain in the EU, he referred to France as the US's greatest ally and used the gulf oil spill to blame an imaginary company by the name of "British Petroleum" when it has been known as BP for years beforehand. The Obama presidency will go down in Britain as one of failure and insult for the most part. However, obviously the British public as a whole liked the ACA, and his policies on gay marriage and abortion, but that's about it. More anger is directed at the Republicans in "Socialist Europe" though, for obvious reasons.
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Let Americans worry about gun control (or preventing gun control).

Worry about west sefton.
 
US Conservative said:
I didnt ask who has more influence, I asked if we had less under Obama.
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Re-read the comment that I posted.

Let any nation that thinks that the USA is weak try jumping on the USA. Case closed.

I don't have time to waste on you.
 
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US Conservative said:
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As the worlds superpower, this is a question worth being asked.

Internationally are we declining in influence on the world stage?

Do our enemies, rivals, and allies see us as weaker now?

Are we seen as stronger for having Obama as POTUS or are we seen as weaker since Bush's Presidency?

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I don't think anyone sees the US as weaker in a military sense, how could they? The US spends more money on arms than the next 9 nations combined. What it has lost, and what certainly makes it weaker diplomatically, is it's moral authority, and that didn't happen under Obama, but under Bush.
 
Andalublue said:
I don't think anyone sees the US as weaker in a military sense, how could they? The US spends more money on arms than the next 9 nations combined. What it has lost, and what certainly makes it weaker diplomatically, is it's moral authority, and that didn't happen under Obama, but under Bush.
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Its like you guys all read off the same script. Its almost verbatim the same post 5 or 6 times so far.
 
Perotista said:
I agree on the vision, but as for being a leader, here are a couple of polls. Most Americans think he is not. I gave you the total, then it is broken down between Republicans, democrats and Independents. I think how independents see the president as a leader or not is much more important than how republicans or democrats do. After all we know how the majority of the members of each party will answer.


Quinnipiac Poll asked Would you say that Barack Obama - has strong leadership qualities or not?
……….Tot…….Rep……Dem……Ind
Yes….46%.....18%.....82%.....41%
No…..51%.....80%.....16%.....56%
Fox Poll asked Do you think Barack Obama is a strong and decisive Leader?
……….Tot…….Rep…….Dem…….Ind
Yes….47%......19%.......78%.....37%
No…..51%......80%.......20%.....61%
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That is a nasty thing to say. True or not. ;)
 
Bush made it stronger for the US to be perceived weaker under the Obama administration.
 
US Conservative said:
Let Americans worry about gun control (or preventing gun control).
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That's my opinion on it. But Obama went and tried to dictate our European policy so the claim has some legitimacy.
 
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