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    Re: Is the US perceived as weaker under the Obama administration?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post


    As the worlds superpower, this is a question worth being asked.

    Internationally are we declining in influence on the world stage?

    Do our enemies, rivals, and allies see us as weaker now?

    Are we seen as stronger for having Obama as POTUS or are we seen as weaker since Bush's Presidency?

    I don't think you're in danger of being invaded any time soon.

    Economically and politically, we could argue forever. There's no definitive baseline for comparison. The question is too ambiguous.

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    Re: Is the US perceived as weaker under the Obama administration?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Plenty of polls have been done-Obama has a lower approval than Bush, even in europe and the middle east. But I dont think its just partisan, if it was, the results of those polls wouldnt be as lop sided as they are.
    We just had a poll posted about 10 most admired people in the world by nation. It was brought in by a CON because Oxcy Rush beat Hillary in the USofA poll. I'm sure you saw it. In EVERY nation BushII didn't make the list, any list, outside the USofA. In the UK where he was much 'admired' and they were our partner in the Iraq debacle BushII couldn't break the top 30...

    If you define 'weaker' as not reckless then yeah ya got it Sparky!

    Obama seems damned if he does and damned if he doesn't when it comes to overseas intervention. While some mindless hawks rant about Putin in Syria, the result is Putin backed down and world war was averted- even though a long line of CONS tried to make the incident out to what happened in Aug 1914.

    Obama isn't weak, he just isn't a shoot from the lip, ex-cheerleader, legacy bratt.

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    Re: Is the US perceived as weaker under the Obama administration?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    what is nasty? That I think how independents view the president is more important than how Republicans or Democrats? It is at least when it comes to elections. It is also true I think in today's polarized world of politics where what ever the president does or what stance he takes on the issue 80% of all Republicans will be against him or the stance only because he is a Democrat and 80% of all Democrats will be for him or the stance because he is a Democrats. The ACA is the same way. The republicans are oppose to it by a 89-9 margin, the Democrats are all for it by a 80-18 margin, Independents are against it 60-38. So one can safely assume that if one is a Republican, he is against the ACA, if one is a Democrat he is for the ACA, so it is up to the independents to decide if the ACA is good or bad.

    Name the issue and you will get abut the same bread down by party regardless of the issue. So to find out the true feelings of Americans, one has to look at independents and throw the two parties out of the mix.
    So sad. But so the voter seems to be. On the other hand it gives the system a higher level of stability.

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    Re: Is the US perceived as weaker under the Obama administration?

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    So sad. But so the voter seems to be. On the other hand it gives the system a higher level of stability.
    I don't think so. What this polarization has caused is both parties to lose members and the number of independents to climb. According to Gallup 61% of all Americans view the Republican Party in an unfavorable light. 54% of all Americans view the Democratic Party in an unfavorable light. 68% o Independents dislike Republicans and 64% dislike the Democratic Party. Why is this important and how might it lead to instability. Back in 2005 only 30% of the electorate identified themselves as independents, today that number has risen to 45%, as of Jan 8, 2004. The affiliation of the two major parties has dropped from 67% back in 2005 to 53% today.

    We have had two wild swings in congress, 2006 and 2010 in less than ten years and 2014 is looking like another wild swing. I call these sea change elections. They happen though out history but 3 in a span of 8 years is unheard of. These types of election occurred in 1932, 1948 and 1994. 3 sea change election in 60 years vs. 3 in 8 years.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Is the US perceived as weaker under the Obama administration?

    I had to click on "certainly."

    but we are talking perception here.

    We cannot deny that Obama has presented himself globally as a "kinder, gentler," president. Hell, he even won peace prizes. He ranked second, only behind Pope Francis, in a recent approval poll. Some folks think that the neocon approach of war-dogging and sword rattling as signs of strength. So, in that way, to these kind of people, Obama is certainly "making us look weak."

    Again, perception.

    But in real world, Obama is one terrorist killing mo' fo'. He has the balls of King Kong and America's military might remains second to none, worldwide. But that's just reality. And the poll is about perception.

    I am reminded of an old saying, "Walk softly and carry a big stick."

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    Re: Is the US perceived as weaker under the Obama administration?

    Quote Originally Posted by RDS View Post
    Sunni and Shia lived in peace before the US invasion.



    There's not much peace going on in Iraq now, eh?

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    Re: Is the US perceived as weaker under the Obama administration?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    There's not much peace going on in Iraq now, eh?
    I have long said that there was a seething civil war brewing in Iraq. It was just a matter of time.

    I'm sure the Iraqi's would have no objection to postponing this civil war as long as Uncle Sam kept trucking in semi-trailer loads of hundred dollar bills.

    But, sooner or later, the trucks had to stop and the US has to leave. The civil war is inevitable. It was just a question of when.

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    Re: Is the US perceived as weaker under the Obama administration?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I have long said that there was a seething civil war brewing in Iraq. It was just a matter of time.


    I'm sure the Iraqi's would have no objection to postponing this civil war as long as Uncle Sam kept trucking in semi-trailer loads of hundred dollar bills.

    But, sooner or later, the trucks had to stop and the US has to leave. The civil war is inevitable. It was just a question of when.



    I totally agree.

    Not trying to steal your thunder, but I also saw this coming years ago.

    This will not end soon, and it certainly won't end well.

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    Re: Is the US perceived as weaker under the Obama administration?

    I hate it to break it to the OP, but childish aggressive foreign policy won't make his penis any less embarrassing. Foreign policy is not decided by insecure bluster, its must be guided by realpolitik. It requires a careful and pragmatic analysis of geography, economics, technology, religion, political climates, military strength and many other factors. History is littered with the corpses of idiots who though that acting like a tough guy is a replacement for the careful application of true power.

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    Re: Is the US perceived as weaker under the Obama administration?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    I totally agree.

    Not trying to steal your thunder, but I also saw this coming years ago.

    This will not end soon, and it certainly won't end well.
    Agreed. Not only did I see it coming, I actually spoke about it being the inevitable, right here at Debate Politics, many years ago.

    When the majority is oppressed by a minority with an iron glove and a bloody sword, payback is just a matter of time.

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