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Should 13 y.o. boys be allowed to consent to hetero-sex w/adult women?

Should the age of consent be lowered to 13 y.o. when a boy wants sex with a woman?

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sKiTzo said:
USA says 18 years old. Nature says around 13, which is when most females begin to menstruate and males get hard-ons for no apparent reason while they're sitting in class. Why try to overrule nature with the arrogance of mankind?
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the same reason we curb many of our natural inclinations: due to the fact that we can and often find what is natural isn't the best at serving the needs of a moral and ethical social framework
 
No thx to discriminatory laws
 
I had to think before deciding how to vote in this poll. I think the key phrase here is "when a boy wants sex with a woman". It should be something that the boy should initiate, not the woman. If a boy is mature enough to understand the concept of sex (and many 13 year old boys are), then I don't see a problem with him seeking it from a mature woman. Of course, we know most 13 year olds are not going to be hitting on older women for sex, so it becomes a moot point.

However, women shouldn't be going around seducing underage males and being allowed to get away with it. The reasons you see so many women taking advantage of young men is because they know if they get caught, they'll get a slap on the wrist. Women have so many advantages in society, and there are so many double standards in favor of them, it's sickening. Women receive much lighter sentences for committing the same offenses as men, crimes against women are taken much more seriously than crimes against men, and society in general doesn't really seem to care. The justice system's bias in favor of women must end.
 
What if the 13 year old boy wants sex with a man? Does that change anyone's perspective?
 
Interesting question.

And no. Operative concept is adults having sex with children, which is wrong. A 13-year old is a boy, an adolescent child. Man or woman with whom he has sex, and no matter how enthusiastic he is, it's statutory rape.
 
sKiTzo said:
USA says 18 years old. Nature says around 13, which is when most females begin to menstruate and males get hard-ons for no apparent reason while they're sitting in class. Why try to overrule nature with the arrogance of mankind?
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I suppose we should remove all laws in the process then to be more like nature. Rampant theft and murder, go!
 
Goshin said:
If some adult woman had had sex with my son when he was 13, they'd BETTER put her in jail or I'll break my boot off in the crack of her ass... 13yo's are not mature enough to make good decisions about sex.


Now if you want to argue it should not be the same as FORCIBLE rape, that is not as severe legally, I would agree.
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Well said Goshin. Its child abuse pure and simple. Far too many people look at this with a big smile on their face and a rise in their pants thinking "WOW" but if one can get past that initial pleasure - these kids can be messed up bigtime from stuff like this.
 
Summerwind said:
Only if it is also for girls since we all know that girls at that age are actually more mature. The only difference sexually is the social reaction to them having sex. For a boy, he's a stud, for a girl, she's a worthless slut. Lower the age for both and quit demonizing consensual sex.
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No, unless they are also to be tried, convicted and sentenced as adults for any and all criminal actions. Consent, the maturity to understand the consequences of one's actions, implies complete responsibility. Children are treated differently, from adults under the law, because they are different.
 
Goshin said:
If some adult woman had had sex with my son when he was 13, they'd BETTER put her in jail or I'll break my boot off in the crack of her ass... 13yo's are not mature enough to make good decisions about sex.


Now if you want to argue it should not be the same as FORCIBLE rape, that is not as severe legally, I would agree.
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Though I very much like the breaking off your boot in her crack part in retaliation, I don't think I would stop there if some woman preyed on my 13 year old son like that. I'd mop the road up with her. Even her mama would have a hard time recognizing her when I was done with her.
 
MaggieD said:
A 13-year-old's brain is soft-boiled. It's not fully cooked. Sex between an adult and a 13-year-old child isn't merely demonized. It's pedophilia.
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Actually it's hebephilia

Goshin said:
No, actually it is Ephebophilia: sex with adolescents.
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Ephebophilia is 15 to 19. Hebephilia is 11 to 14. So the 13 yo would fall under the later catagory.

Summerwind said:
Both, or neither. But then that should also be the case if the partner is a consensually chosen adult. Please note, the term consensual. Personally I think that 13 should be the age to legally consent for boys and girls.
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I'm going to disagree with you on the age as the line, but state that I do believe that the law should have a provision that if there is an adult/minor relationship and the minor wants to contest the statutory rape, (s)he should be allowed and the court can make a case-by-case determination as to whether or not the minor in question was truely mature enough to have made that decision. As Paschendale noted there are probably some 13 yo who are that mature, but not many.

Goshin said:
...and they know they are crossing a line society frowns upon.
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This should NEVER be the basis of a law.
 
I think the legal age of consent should be 16 for both genders. That said, I agree with the previous poster that when it comes to sex between adults and underage teens it should be looked at on a case by case basis. It should not automatically be assumed that the minor was unable to consent and fully comprehend what they were consenting to. That rigid attitude creates more problems than it attempts to solve.
 
Goshin said:
Actually many states in the US say 16, and a few say younger. There is no Federal law on it, aside from something about state lines perhaps.
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Wow. I had no idea that any state said younger than 16.
 
sKiTzo said:
Wow. I had no idea that any state said younger than 16.
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IIRC I think Kentucky has an exemption allowing 15yo's to marry under some circumstances, and there might be others I'm not sure.
 
cpwill said:
It's not against the rules to point out that it is a subset of pedophilia, with an emphasis on pubescents. :shrug: a debate of fine definitions, perhaps, but the reality remains the same.



Speaking of reality - all of you who voted "yes"? You stay the hell away from my children in reality or I will ****ing dispose of you.
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Someone saying yes does not mean they want to have sex with your children.
 
Dr. Chuckles said:
the same reason we curb many of our natural inclinations: due to the fact that we can and often find what is natural isn't the best at serving the needs of a moral and ethical social framework
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There has been a moral and ethical social framework in place for thousands of years. Only in recent modern society was the bracket for being a pedophile readjusted to include 13 and up.
 
sKiTzo said:
There has been a moral and ethical social framework in place for thousands of years. Only in recent modern society was the bracket for being a pedophile readjusted to include 13 and up.
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you're appealing to tradition. Lot's of things were traditional at one point that are no seen as morally and ethically wrong, such as beating your wife. So pointing to such hardly justifies it, while I can point to the lack of social and cognitive development on the side of a 13 year old
 
Goshin said:
If some adult woman had had sex with my son when he was 13, they'd BETTER put her in jail or I'll break my boot off in the crack of her ass... 13yo's are not mature enough to make good decisions about sex.


Now if you want to argue it should not be the same as FORCIBLE rape, that is not as severe legally, I would agree.
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This sums it up pretty nicely. Not really sure what more there is to say.
 
I say no but on this issue I am kind of a hypocrite because when I was fourteen I lost my virginity to a twenty year old woman and never regretted it.
 
Navy Pride said:
I say no but on this issue I am kind of a hypocrite because when I was fourteen I lost my virginity to a twenty year old woman and never regretted it.
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Did you know she had to have an abortion afterwards?
 
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