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Thread: Should 13 y.o. boys be allowed to consent to hetero-sex w/adult women?

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    Re: Should 13 y.o. boys be allowed to consent to hetero-sex w/adult women?

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    I didn't want there to be any misunderstanding about homosexual sex, or 13 year old girl having sex with and adult.

    I needed to be as clear as possible because this is an internet forum. I already had to deal with one poster insinuating something untrue despite how clear I was.



    OK, I'll buy that. Sounds reasonable to me.

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    Re: Should 13 y.o. boys be allowed to consent to hetero-sex w/adult women?

    Isn't the question more accurately can they consent? I believe they can, so of course, I think it should be allowed that they are permitted.

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    Re: Should 13 y.o. boys be allowed to consent to hetero-sex w/adult women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    We shouldn't. Those women are abusing those boys. The stigma that men always want sex all the time and that all sex is okay for a male is extremely harmful, not to mention inaccurate. The only hypocrites here are the ones taking your viewpoint.
    I highly doubt that the majority of the cases you see are indeed rape or forced on the boy in any sort of way what so ever.

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    Re: Should 13 y.o. boys be allowed to consent to hetero-sex w/adult women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    We shouldn't. Those women are abusing those boys. The stigma that men always want sex all the time and that all sex is okay for a male is extremely harmful, not to mention inaccurate. The only hypocrites here are the ones taking your viewpoint.



    Adult women having sex with under-age boys never has been and never will be OK. It's against the law in the USA.

    An under-age boy can't legally consent to sex with an adult woman. That defense won't stand up in court.

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    Re: Should 13 y.o. boys be allowed to consent to hetero-sex w/adult women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I highly doubt that the majority of the cases you see are indeed rape or forced on the boy in any sort of way what so ever
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    Force doesn't matter.

    An under-age child can't consent to sex with an adult. That defense won't stand up in court.

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    Re: Should 13 y.o. boys be allowed to consent to hetero-sex w/adult women?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Force doesn't matter.

    An under-age child can't consent to sex with an adult. That defense won't stand up in court.
    Under current law we assume that all teenagers can not consent to sex, but it's obvious that conclusion is incorrect.

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    Re: Should 13 y.o. boys be allowed to consent to hetero-sex w/adult women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Isn't the question more accurately can they consent? I believe they can, so of course, I think it should be allowed that they are permitted.


    In a sense, they can "consent".... expressing desire and willingness, that is.

    The question is whether it is "fully informed consent"... or I'd say, even "adequately informed consent". Do they understand what they're getting into, the implications, the risks.

    Sure, lots of 16-18yos (legal age in most states) do not really have fully informed capacity... but we have to draw the line somewhere, and since 13yo's are not REMOTELY ready to deal with STD's, pregnancy, child support, and so on...

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    Re: Should 13 y.o. boys be allowed to consent to hetero-sex w/adult women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    In a sense, they can "consent".

    The question is whether it is "fully informed consent"... or I'd say, even "adequately informed consent". Do they understand what they're getting into, the implications, the risks.

    Sure, lots of 16-18yos (legal age in most states) do not really have fully informed capacity... but we have to draw the line somewhere, and since 13yo's are not REMOTELY ready to deal with STD's, pregnancy, child support, and so on...
    I'm not sure what consenting to risks or understanding those risks has to do with the act of consenting to sex itself. Since the adult in the situation is charged with rape it seems to me all that would matter is consenting to sex.

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    Re: Should 13 y.o. boys be allowed to consent to hetero-sex w/adult women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I'm not sure what consenting to risks or understanding those risks has to do with the act of consenting to sex itself. Since the adult in the situation is charged with rape it seems to me all that would matter is consenting to sex.

    Which is why I've said, in my PERSONAL view I don't think it is "rape" per se.

    But I still think it should be illegal, with some kind of penalty, because 12-15yo's lack the mental, emotional, social and fiscal responsibility to deal with sex and its possible consequences, and the adult should know that and back off.

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    Re: Should 13 y.o. boys be allowed to consent to hetero-sex w/adult women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Which is why I've said, in my PERSONAL view I don't think it is "rape" per se.

    But I still think it should be illegal, with some kind of penalty, because 12-15yo's lack the mental, emotional, social and fiscal responsibility to deal with sex and its possible consequences, and the adult should know that and back off.
    However, logically that adult would also be equipped with knowledges the 13yo doesn't have regarding safe sex. So the adult (man or woman) turns down the 13yo (boy or girl) and who conversely convinces a 12yo to have sex with him/her instead and now there's a baby on the way, though I guess you might be right that the probability of an STD would go down IF both teens were still virginal. Doesn't really make any better sense when looked at in the long run of possible consequences.
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