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    Re: Should 13 y.o. boys be allowed to consent to hetero-sex w/adult women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    With consensual sex, who is the perp? It is assumed to be the eldest person, but that isn't always the case, is it? Seems there have been situations where teen boys have been charged with forcible rape of adult women, so is is possible/probable that teen boys can also get consent from an adult woman if the law allowed?
    Huh? What do you mean by "forcible rape"

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    Re: Should 13 y.o. boys be allowed to consent to hetero-sex w/adult women?

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    I'm just pointing out that there's risks to sex no matter what context it's in with the married couple example hi-lighting such risk. I'm not sure where the passive-aggressive assumption comes from that I think everyone cheats.

    There are big risks and smaller risks, manageable risks and unmanageable risks. I would know: I'm a risk-taker.

    However, the difference in STD risks between a sexually active 13yo and an adult married couple are so huge that the comparison is a bit ridiculous.

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    Re: Should 13 y.o. boys be allowed to consent to hetero-sex w/adult women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    And if someone cannot truly comprehend or account for all of the consequences of their actions, are they really consenting to it? Consent isn't really consent. Informed consent is. You are arguing that consent can come from a place of ignorance. There is no magical yardstick to know what someone is thinking to know if they truly consent to something. Minors, far more often than not, do know have the knowledge or understanding to make these decisions. Just like drunk people.



    Well, too bad. We're not talking about making different laws drastically curtailing behavior for one sex. We're talking about protecting children. You specifically chose to form the OP as you to play on the social stigmas, that he is victorious for conquering her, while if their sexes were swapped, she would exploited. That is the exact opposite of what I meant by "harsher". There is just as much room for abuse by an adult regardless of the gender pairings involved. But girls face harsher physical consequences. They should NOT face harsher social ones. All children need to be protected from sexual exploitation by adults.
    Laws are based on social stigmas. If you want to talk about flipping things then women who have sex with boys should be thrown in jail for life just like men. I'd rather not see that tbh. Is it hypocritical? Well yeah but we as a society are hypocrites. If we're going to be all wink-wink, nudge-nudge when boys have sex with women then we should at least make it easier to do so.
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    Re: Should 13 y.o. boys be allowed to consent to hetero-sex w/adult women?

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Yes!!
    This is you way of telling us you are a 13 year old boy, is it?
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    Re: Should 13 y.o. boys be allowed to consent to hetero-sex w/adult women?

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Laws are based on social stigmas. If you want to talk about flipping things then women who have sex with boys should be thrown in jail for life just like men. I'd rather not see that tbh. Is it hypocritical? Well yeah but we as a society are hypocrites. If we're going to be all wink-wink, nudge-nudge when boys have sex with women then we should at least make it easier to do so.


    We aren't.

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    Re: Should 13 y.o. boys be allowed to consent to hetero-sex w/adult women?

    How many 13 year olds doesn't grasp the responsibility of getting someone pregnant?

    Hell... there are already too many adults who do not. Why should we make such numbers worse?

    Nobody should be having sex anyway, unless they can financially and mentally shoulder the burden of a unplanned pregnancy.

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    Re: Should 13 y.o. boys be allowed to consent to hetero-sex w/adult women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    Huh? What do you mean by "forcible rape"
    I mean quite clearly that teen boys have committed and been charged with rape against adult women wherein it is clear the teen raped, forcibly, an adult. Were that same teen to have consensual sex with a different adult woman, she'd have been the one charged with rape. Somehow that doesn't make sense to me.
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    Re: Should 13 y.o. boys be allowed to consent to hetero-sex w/adult women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    This is you way of telling us you are a 13 year old boy, is it?
    The OP could use some work, but the forum doesn't allow the poll and the post to be made at the same time so I wanted to make sure I had something there.
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    Re: Should 13 y.o. boys be allowed to consent to hetero-sex w/adult women?

    I'm old fashioned - I remember a time when we were happy to let children have childhoods and not pushed to ever lower the age of adulthood. Then again, if in Obama's America it's okay for 13 year old girls to buy morning after pills OTC, you'd better be okay with 13 year old boys having sex with them, because the alternative isn't too appealing.
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    Re: Should 13 y.o. boys be allowed to consent to hetero-sex w/adult women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    I mean quite clearly that teen boys have committed and been charged with rape against adult women wherein it is clear the teen raped, forcibly, an adult.
    You mean physical force? So you're confused about the difference between someone freely engaging into an activity and force being used to influence them against their will?

    Were that same teen to have consensual sex with a different adult woman, she'd have been the one charged with rape. Somehow that doesn't make sense to me.
    Right, because in one instance she was forced into the encounter through physical force, in the other there was no physical force used. And the decision, to enter into such a relationship, was engaged in freely by her. The reason she is considered at fault in such situations is because she is an adult and assumed to be able to recognize the legal and moral issues with it, while a child is not. That is why she is granted rights and responsibilities we do not grant children

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