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Thread: Should 13 y.o. boys be allowed to consent to hetero-sex w/adult women?

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    Re: Should 13 y.o. boys be allowed to consent to hetero-sex w/adult women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    I get the roundabout way people come to these laws, I'm just saying it's goofy. If two teens decide to rob a liquor store, they are both guilty, so why not with underage sex? Our laws for consensual sex in this country (perhaps others, though I have no knowledge to say one way or another about other countries) are just bizarre and contrary to the realities of sexual development, imo.
    Because no parents want THEIR kids to have a juvenile rap sheet for having sex [with a like aged partner] prior to the law saying they are able to - and like it or not parents are all too aware that it could easily be their kid if such a law was in place.

    This is a matter that should be addressed on the family level, and not criminally. When it comes to older people taking advantage.. then we have criminal issues.
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    Re: Should 13 y.o. boys be allowed to consent to hetero-sex w/adult women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    With her babysitting money, the bus or a bicycle. You'd be surprised how able 13 yo girls are at solving simple problems. The bigger question is how they managed to spend the night together without either parents finding out all the way through breakfast at IHOP.
    Oh, that's not a big question. Lots of parents don't give a rat's ass.

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    Re: Should 13 y.o. boys be allowed to consent to hetero-sex w/adult women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Seems to me you'd be better off having a few discussions with your son if you want him to be informed instead of trying to police his acquaintances. .
    IMO a responsible parent needs to do both...all the time. It's 'inconvenient' for some, I realize.
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    Re: Should 13 y.o. boys be allowed to consent to hetero-sex w/adult women?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I don't disagree. We're talking around the issue, though. Apples v Oranges. I say a 13-year-old cannot give sexual consent. I also say the crime committed by having sex with a 13-year-old depends on the age of the perp.
    With consensual sex, who is the perp? It is assumed to be the eldest person, but that isn't always the case, is it? Seems there have been situations where teen boys have been charged with forcible rape of adult women, so is is possible/probable that teen boys can also get consent from an adult woman if the law allowed?
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    Re: Should 13 y.o. boys be allowed to consent to hetero-sex w/adult women?

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    But there's risks no matter what. Even married couples (who cheat on each other) discover their spouse gave them STD's.

    Oh come now. Surely you aren't equating the STD risks of promiscuity at an early age with the STD risks of being married with an expectation of monogamy (and believe it or not, not everyone cheats).

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    Re: Should 13 y.o. boys be allowed to consent to hetero-sex w/adult women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Seems to me you'd be better off having a few discussions with your son if you want him to be informed instead of trying to police his acquaintances. But I do notice that parents seem to stupidly think that keeping their own children entirely ignorant is the best way to not need to trust them. Instead they're the ones who make normal choices with bad results.

    Huh, I missed this post somehow.

    You're making assumptions. Bad ones.

    My son and I ALWAYS talked about EVERYTHING. Still do, and he's 18.

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    Re: Should 13 y.o. boys be allowed to consent to hetero-sex w/adult women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Lastly, I said consensual, not coerced.
    And if someone cannot truly comprehend or account for all of the consequences of their actions, are they really consenting to it? Consent isn't really consent. Informed consent is. You are arguing that consent can come from a place of ignorance. There is no magical yardstick to know what someone is thinking to know if they truly consent to something. Minors, far more often than not, do know have the knowledge or understanding to make these decisions. Just like drunk people.

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Which is why I specifically referenced it as boys having sex with adult women. Males are less likely to get an STD, and the boy certainly won't have to worry about pregnancy. The balls in her court, no pun intended.
    Well, too bad. We're not talking about making different laws drastically curtailing behavior for one sex. We're talking about protecting children. You specifically chose to form the OP as you to play on the social stigmas, that he is victorious for conquering her, while if their sexes were swapped, she would exploited. That is the exact opposite of what I meant by "harsher". There is just as much room for abuse by an adult regardless of the gender pairings involved. But girls face harsher physical consequences. They should NOT face harsher social ones. All children need to be protected from sexual exploitation by adults.
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    Re: Should 13 y.o. boys be allowed to consent to hetero-sex w/adult women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Oh come now. Surely you aren't equating the STD risks of promiscuity at an early age with the STD risks of being married with an expectation of monogamy (and believe it or not, not everyone cheats).
    I'm just pointing out that there's risks to sex no matter what context it's in with the married couple example hi-lighting such risk. I'm not sure where the passive-aggressive assumption comes from that I think everyone cheats.
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    Re: Should 13 y.o. boys be allowed to consent to hetero-sex w/adult women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Though I'd bet that you only looked to those adults that confirmed what you wanted to hear was the best direction, so not really.
    Your reply doesn't make any sense: My point was that *adults* still wield authority and influence over children even when they are rebellious, contrary to your previous claim. Children being selective in who they grant such status to (as you indicate above) doesn't change that.

    So yes, really ...

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    Re: Should 13 y.o. boys be allowed to consent to hetero-sex w/adult women?

    Only if he is an emancipated minor.

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