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Thread: Should 13 y.o. boys be allowed to consent to hetero-sex w/adult women?

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    Re: Should 13 y.o. boys be allowed to consent to hetero-sex w/adult women?

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    Re: Should 13 y.o. boys be allowed to consent to hetero-sex w/adult women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Both, or neither. But then that should also be the case if the partner is a consensually chosen adult. Please note, the term consensual. Personally I think that 13 should be the age to legally consent for boys and girls.

    They're capable of wanting sex, yes... 'consenting' in a sense, yes... but not "informed consent". Most of them don't really understand what they're getting into, and what the possible consequences are, and are not mentally, emotionally, socially or fiscally ready to deal with those possible consequences.

    Yes, the same could be said of a lot of 16-18yo's, and 16 is age-of-consent in many states like mine... but you have to draw the line somewhere.

    Two 13yo's is one thing... NEITHER knows what they're getting into really, so charging either or both would be senseless... but when one partner is an adult, they DO know what they're doing, and they know they are crossing a line society frowns upon.

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    Re: Should 13 y.o. boys be allowed to consent to hetero-sex w/adult women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    With her babysitting money, the bus or a bicycle. You'd be surprised how able 13 yo girls are at solving simple problems. The bigger question is how they managed to spend the night together without either parents finding out all the way through breakfast at IHOP.
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    Re: Should 13 y.o. boys be allowed to consent to hetero-sex w/adult women?

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Yes!!



    If someone had asked me this question 57 years ago when I was 13-years old I am sure that I would have said yes.

    But now that I am 70-years old I see it fro a different point of view and my answer is a strong no.

    Any adult female who has sexual intercourse with a 13-year old male child has committed rape.

    I don't believe that U.S. law on this will change anytime soon.

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    Re: Should 13 y.o. boys be allowed to consent to hetero-sex w/adult women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    I agree with the idea that a teacher can be coersive, but so can the cheerleader or quarterback. Secondly, you don't seem to know any 13 year olds. By 13 they are WAAAAYYYY past being "obedient" in any way whatsoever. Lastly, I said consensual, not coerced.

    being obedient to their parent is something different than still being dependent on authority figures, who are usually adults. At 13 I would fight with my parents a lot, but I still looked to "adults" people for direction in life

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    Re: Should 13 y.o. boys be allowed to consent to hetero-sex w/adult women?


    Okay. STD's may be more serious for women in some significant ways... that is no comfort to a man who catches herpes, I'm sure. It's hardly an endorsement that a 13yo boy having sex is free from STD worries. It's more like saying that a gunshot wound is more likely to result in severe harm for a smaller person than a big person... still, nobody wants to get shot.

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    Re: Should 13 y.o. boys be allowed to consent to hetero-sex w/adult women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    They're capable of wanting sex, yes... 'consenting' in a sense, yes... but not "informed consent". Most of them don't really understand what they're getting into, and what the possible consequences are, and are not mentally, emotionally, socially or fiscally ready to deal with those possible consequences.

    Yes, the same could be said of a lot of 16-18yo's, and 16 is age-of-consent in many states like mine... but you have to draw the line somewhere.

    Two 13yo's is one thing... NEITHER knows what they're getting into really, so charging either or both would be senseless... but when one partner is an adult, they DO know what they're doing, and they know they are crossing a line society frowns upon.
    I get the roundabout way people come to these laws, I'm just saying it's goofy. If two teens decide to rob a liquor store, they are both guilty, so why not with underage sex? Our laws for consensual sex in this country (perhaps others, though I have no knowledge to say one way or another about other countries) are just bizarre and contrary to the realities of sexual development, imo.
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    Re: Should 13 y.o. boys be allowed to consent to hetero-sex w/adult women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    No, either he/she can consent, or he/she can't consent. It doesn't make any sense that the ability to consent is determined by the person you consent with. Makes no sense at all, regardless of the laws' attempt to make it sensible.
    I don't disagree. We're talking around the issue, though. Apples v Oranges. I say a 13-year-old cannot give sexual consent. I also say the crime committed by having sex with a 13-year-old depends on the age of the perp.

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    Re: Should 13 y.o. boys be allowed to consent to hetero-sex w/adult women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    being obedient to their parent is something different than still being dependent on authority figures, who are usually adults. At 13 I would fight with my parents a lot, but I still looked to "adults" people for direction in life
    Though I'd bet that you only looked to those adults that confirmed what you wanted to hear was the best direction, so not really.
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    Re: Should 13 y.o. boys be allowed to consent to hetero-sex w/adult women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Okay. STD's may be more serious for women in some significant ways... that is no comfort to a man who catches herpes, I'm sure. It's hardly an endorsement that a 13yo boy having sex is free from STD worries. It's more like saying that a gunshot wound is more likely to result in severe harm for a smaller person than a big person... still, nobody wants to get shot.
    But there's risks no matter what. Even married couples (who cheat on each other) discover their spouse gave them STD's.
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