View Poll Results: Can a man be criminally/legally charged with raping his wife?

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Thread: Spousal Rape - Crime of Rape, or Not ?????

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    Re: Spousal Rape - Crime of Rape, or Not ?????

    Quote Originally Posted by Anagram View Post
    You don't have to prove your innocence though to not be convicted.
    Try explaining that to your boss, family and friends.

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    Re: Spousal Rape - Crime of Rape, or Not ?????

    Quote Originally Posted by Anagram View Post
    I'd imagine the same way you prove sex outside of marriage is rape.
    Right. What is that method? How do you prove sex outside marriage was rape?

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    Re: Spousal Rape - Crime of Rape, or Not ?????

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    No means no, in or out of marriage.

    Anyone who doesn't understand that has a serious problem.
    No (). It may be part of a game spouses play to keep their marriage fresh. Also, that "no" when said too often in a marriage is actually domestic abuse - called alienation of affection and grounds for divorce.

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    Re: Spousal Rape - Crime of Rape, or Not ?????

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Try explaining that to your boss, family and friends.
    She can accuse you of rape whether its a crime or not. The law doesn't change that.
    There should be Instant Runoff Voting

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    Re: Spousal Rape - Crime of Rape, or Not ?????

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    No means no, in or out of marriage.
    I think it's clear that everyone here agrees the 'no means no'. The trick is proving to disinterested 3rd parties who weren't there and don't know either person, that 'no' was actually said at all.

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    Re: Spousal Rape - Crime of Rape, or Not ?????

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Right. What is that method? How do you prove sex outside marriage was rape?
    I'm not an expert. But seeing as how people are convicted of rape, it happens.
    There should be Instant Runoff Voting

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    Re: Spousal Rape - Crime of Rape, or Not ?????

    Quote Originally Posted by Anagram View Post
    I'd imagine the same way you prove sex outside of marriage is rape. There are going to be times when it's unprovable, but that's no reason to remove it from being a crime entirely.
    No, it's not the same. If a woman claimed a man raped her, but admitted she removed her clothes and got into bed with him that would be a difficult case. That would be the instance in some cases of claiming spousal rape.

    If a woman claims a man she never knew raped her, proving that sex occurred is more supportive than the same evidence in a claim of spousal rape. I answered it is a case by case basis for determination.

    It is astonishing that most members of the forum seem to believe that if one person makes an accusation against another, that other person should be arrested, handcuffed, put in jail and held there for 6 months or a year if unable to post bond - money never to be returned - and spend tens of thousands of dollars for a lawyer, probably permanent lose of their job and maybe everything else - under the presumption of guilt unless months later when the person has lost everything that can't be proven.

    The French philosopher Torqueville predicted the United States would ultimately evolve to this as the ultimate evolution of democracy. More people in prison than anywhere else on earth. Far more with convictions, on probation and lose of most citizen's rights for life - with imprisonment and punishment imposed initially and continued unless later it shown there was not enough evidence for a case - the person's life shattered by then.
    Last edited by joko104; 01-17-14 at 05:39 PM.

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    Re: Spousal Rape - Crime of Rape, or Not ?????

    Quote Originally Posted by Anagram View Post
    I'm not an expert.
    I'm sure most rape victims aren't experts, either, but if it happens to them they need to figure out how to prove it. So how do you do that?

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    Re: Spousal Rape - Crime of Rape, or Not ?????

    Is sex with your spouse a legal marital obligation?

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    Re: Spousal Rape - Crime of Rape, or Not ?????

    Quote Originally Posted by Anagram View Post
    She can accuse you of rape whether its a crime or not. The law doesn't change that.
    That's true and this law is a protection against that circumstance.

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