View Poll Results: Can a man be criminally/legally charged with raping his wife?

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Thread: Spousal Rape - Crime of Rape, or Not ?????

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    Re: Spousal Rape - Crime of Rape, or Not ?????

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    Would seem so. Though NY's divorce laws were designed to make a divorce very difficult to get so other states probably aren't as bad.
    At one point it got so bad that couples that wanted to divorce lied in court - claimed no sex in a year or admitting adultery when in reality they didn't - to get them.
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    Re: Spousal Rape - Crime of Rape, or Not ?????

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    I actually suspect it's the case more than most of us realize. I've had more than one man friend who has told me pretty personal stuff about their marriages. I'm frankly shocked at how many women decide they don't like sex anymore, once they are married. It's really kind of sad.
    I suspect that a lot of those women never really liked sex and just pretended that they liked it. I don't see how you can go from liking it to not liking it just because you got married.

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    Re: Spousal Rape - Crime of Rape, or Not ?????

    I think it would be harder to prove. But rape is rape and rape is wrong.
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    Re: Spousal Rape - Crime of Rape, or Not ?????

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    I think it would be harder to prove. But rape is rape and rape is wrong.
    I agree, it would definitely be much harder to prove. DNA wouldn't count for much between two people who are married.

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    Re: Spousal Rape - Crime of Rape, or Not ?????

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I agree, it would definitely be much harder to prove. DNA wouldn't count for much between two people who are married.
    Good point.

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    Re: Spousal Rape - Crime of Rape, or Not ?????

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    This thread is about something a politician said 12 years ago, because he's up for re-election. There is no pending legislation on this issue, no ballot initiative, nothing.
    This thread was started because of that. However, that really wasn't what was asked. The question itself is still valid and there are obviously people who still believe that there should be an exemption, people like that politician. Granted, it isn't a popular belief at all, but it obviously still exists. Plus, there are still differences in the laws regarding rape and marriage status in how they are dealt with (earlier links already show this).
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    Re: Spousal Rape - Crime of Rape, or Not ?????

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    I'm not saying we burn the criminal code because some crimes are unusual...

    However, how do you define rape anyways?

    Like I have previously said I have been in relationships were sometimes my girl didn't want to "have fun" but I "aggressively" got her in the mood...... Thats not rape. She just didn't want to have sex then but I did and then she did because I "put the moves on and we both had a good time.. This is all before she said "no, not now don't feel like it" - but hey, the same **** happened to me before too after a hard days work where I'm just too tired.

    That's not rape - that is "sacrifice" (if you want to call it that) for someone you love to make them happy.

    When I think rape I think about a man beating a woman and forcing himself on her and in her and disregarding any emotion, control or feeling that woman has under the situation..... And I just cant see a husband doing that (maybe some drunk loser husband that has been abusive to others his entire life and only gives a **** about himself)... What type of woman would marry or let alone date a dick like that anyways? I understand some woman love badboys but that goes way beyond being a "badboy."
    Rape is if a person says no, and the other continues anyway, despite no actual consenting, then it is rape. Plus, it can also be rape if the person is unable to say no or has something being held over them to get them to have sex with that other person, something serious, such as job, threat of harm to them or someone else, or blackmail. If the woman or man is too drugged or drunk to move or talk coherently or think really coherently, then it is rape if you have sex with them. It may be that the person decides to say basically afterward that they would have given consent anyway so they don't pursue it, but it is rape if they weren't able to give consent.

    I have had some guys I was dating work to get me in the mood. However, there are also obvious things that say no as well, especially after she/he has said no already. If they aren't in the mood by the time you are undressed or after "heavy petting", and you keep going, then you really need to pay attention to the body language of the person. I've never had any guy misunderstand my body language after some trying for the mood on his part either way. If there was any doubt, I would reiterate I wasn't in the mood. There are certainly some grey areas here. Some things are misunderstandings, which is where there should be something else to deal with such. But other times it is pretty obvious that there wasn't consent but the person did it anyway.

    Actually one movie that comes to mind is 40 Days and 40 Nights. That was rape. The guy was asleep and the girl raped him, taking advantage of him being "hard up" due to the bet. He could have absolutely brought her up on charges (depending on the state though, since some states actually say that men cannot be raped by women). It would have been his call though. And pretty much that is what it comes down to, how the person "raped" feels about it and whether a reasonable person could consider it rape given the evidence.
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    Re: Spousal Rape - Crime of Rape, or Not ?????

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I overstated that a bit, sorry. What I mean is, if intimacy is declined for more than a week or two without a good explanation, there's a problem and there's going to be a discussion... and some kind of resolution within a reasonable period of time. Cutting off your partner without a damn good reason, whether done by the man or the woman, is a major breach of the marital relationship.
    Oh, I agree. There should be some communication (time frame would depend on past levels of intimacy and situation though). If you are cutting them off completely without valid justification, then there is likely a problem with the marriage that needs to be dealt with. If the person cutting off the intimacy isn't willing to address the issue, then that could be alienation of intimacy. But it would depend on several factors. And just because they do that doesn't mean that the person automatically would gain a faulted divorce over the alienation of intimacy if the one accused is able to come up with a valid reason for doing it, even if not presented to the accuser.
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    Re: Spousal Rape - Crime of Rape, or Not ?????

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    How utterly insane. A marriage license does not negate a woman's right to control her own body. Husbands are not entitled to sex against their spouse's wishes.
    If it gets to that point, then she needs to get a divorce. I mean these two people have probably had sex who knows how many times, and suddenly the cops need to get called in because he wouldn't stop when she told him she has a headache? Don't drag law enforcement into a situation that should be a private matter between a husband and wife.
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    Re: Spousal Rape - Crime of Rape, or Not ?????

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    I actually suspect it's the case more than most of us realize. I've had more than one man friend who has told me pretty personal stuff about their marriages. I'm frankly shocked at how many women decide they don't like sex anymore, once they are married. It's really kind of sad.
    Yeah, that man-friend must be a really credible source about his wife being a "cold bitch". But if she willingly marry a man who goes around bitching about her to other women, she shares some responsibility, at least she lives in a century where she can divorce the asshole.
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