View Poll Results: Can a man be criminally/legally charged with raping his wife?

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Thread: Spousal Rape - Crime of Rape, or Not ?????

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    Re: Spousal Rape - Crime of Rape, or Not ?????

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Because the argument was made to keep the exemption in place to begin with. The argument was being made by him during the vote to repeal a VA ban on prosecution of marital/spousal rape. That says that he wanted the ban on prosecution to remain, meaning that it would prevent husbands from being charged with rape of their wives.
    What exemption? A link to a quote of the law, please, not more of you just saying so.

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    Re: Spousal Rape - Crime of Rape, or Not ?????

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    On the contrary, I gave you several ways that a person could get convicted of rape during marriage. And, as I said then, it is not right to have laws that prevent prosecution of husbands for rape in place (which was what this guy was fighting to keep in place) just because there would be a problem with proof in many cases.

    And that little snippet was not the whole of his argument either. He also argued that there would be a potential issue with the reputation of these husbands should a wife falsely accuse him of rape. The problem with this is that there was no reduction in the amount of proof required to show that a wife was raped when compared to some other woman. The proof required would be the same. And as long as there are any laws against rape, anyone could bring false accusations against someone else, even if the person is married.
    I can't find any present or former law which exempted husbands from a rape charge.

    http://ncmdr.org/state_law_chart.html

    http://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com...rape-laws.html
    Last edited by Jerry; 01-18-14 at 05:05 PM.

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    Re: Spousal Rape - Crime of Rape, or Not ?????

    Just because something might be difficult to prove doesn't mean it should be swept under the rug and ignored.

    There are adults coming forward and accusing priests of molestation and rape that happened decades ago.

    Should those cases be ignored because "they're difficult to prove"?

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    Re: Spousal Rape - Crime of Rape, or Not ?????

    By the way - there are now three people who've voted that a man can't rape his wife.

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    Re: Spousal Rape - Crime of Rape, or Not ?????

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    What exemption? A link to a quote of the law, please, not more of you just saying so.
    I already linked the story and there are many more confirming that this was where the argument he was making originated from. If you have evidence to the contrary, please present it. But mine has already been given. And it was not refuted. There was even a press statement made from Blacks people that said he wasn't taking a position at that time. What else was he making the comment on if not a repeal of such a law? Go ahead, you do the research.
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    Re: Spousal Rape - Crime of Rape, or Not ?????

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Yahoo!



    So there it is.

    Man and woman are married.

    Can a man rape his wife? Can he be charged with the crime of rape? Sentenced and sent to jail?
    That kind of rape.

    Is there such a thing as spousal rape?

    Does no mean no in a marriage?

    Or is DICK Black's view reasonable and valid?
    I suppose if its an actual physically violent rape -yes...

    But at the same time I have been with chicks (girlfriends) who didn't want to have sex for one reason or another but I kinda worked my way into it, and they were just trying to please me, so it was completely consensual..... That probably happens to a lot of couples anyways...

    But physically forcing a woman to have sex using brute force (even if it is your wife) is rape in my mind. If you physically have to force a woman to have sex it is certainly rape.

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    Re: Spousal Rape - Crime of Rape, or Not ?????

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I can't find any present or former law which exempted husbands from a rape charge.

    STATE LAW CHART
    Then you are not looking well enough. There have been many posted in this very thread and in fact, there have been court cases that struck down some of those laws in various states. The link you posted is current laws, not past laws. But right from that site:

    July 5, 1993, marital rape became a crime in all 50 states, in at least one section of the sexual offense codes, usually regarding force. May 2005! New stars: AZ/VA. 30 states still have some exemptions from prosecution for rape, e.g. when the husband does not need to use force because the wife is most vulnerable (temporarily or permanently, physically or mentally legally unable to consent)! Such marital privileges are also extended to unmarried cohabitants who sexually attack their partners in CT, DE, IA, MN & WV.
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    Re: Spousal Rape - Crime of Rape, or Not ?????

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Just because something might be difficult to prove doesn't mean it should be swept under the rug and ignored.

    There are adults coming forward and accusing priests of molestation and rape that happened decades ago.

    Should those cases be ignored because "they're difficult to prove"?
    No one's talking about ignoring it.

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    Re: Spousal Rape - Crime of Rape, or Not ?????

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I already linked the story and there are many more confirming that this was where the argument he was making originated from. If you have evidence to the contrary, please present it. But mine has already been given. And it was not refuted. There was even a press statement made from Blacks people that said he wasn't taking a position at that time. What else was he making the comment on if not a repeal of such a law? Go ahead, you do the research.
    You linked to a story (which is where I got that video from). That's not evidence.

    Here's an example of evidence:
    STATE LAW CHART
    Marital / Spousal Rape Laws and Penalties | Criminal Law
    Last edited by Jerry; 01-18-14 at 05:12 PM.

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    Re: Spousal Rape - Crime of Rape, or Not ?????

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Yeah, hot is nice but I tend to avoid crazy.
    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Every time, I would rather an average lady who makes me happy over a gorgeous psychopath. Then to come back to topic, I've heard the latest craze is rape play, I don't like that idea because it could have a chilling affect on actual rape cases.
    You kind of have to wonder if her fetish didn't really revolve around getting her lovers falsely accused of murder. Any guy unfortunate enough to have the gun in question go off during the act would be royally screwed.

    Good luck explaining an accident like that to the cops!

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