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Thread: Spousal Rape - Crime of Rape, or Not ?????

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    Re: Spousal Rape - Crime of Rape, or Not ?????

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Yep, from what I understand she is a little hottie too, but I don't care how pretty a lady is, that's just too messed up for my tastes.


    Yeah, hot is nice but I tend to avoid crazy.

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    Re: Spousal Rape - Crime of Rape, or Not ?????

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    He said that there was no way to get a conviction when it came to spouses living together. Granted, he said this in 2002, so it is outdated. However, he never retracted it, and says now simply that he has no stand on the issue. He was however debating, at the time, whether the rape laws should include spousal rape, him saying that they shouldn't, that the laws should not hold spouses able to be charged for rape.

    GOP Congressional Candidate: Spousal Rape Shouldn't Be a Crime | Mother Jones

    Although this isn't really a current issue, he at least did hold the position that spouses (or at least husbands, because I believe VA could be one of those places that refuses to recognize that men can get raped too) should be exempt from rape prosecution.
    I don't see how you're getting "there should be an exemption again that basically allows for men to rape their wives" out of that. It doesn't make sense how someone cold read what you just quoted and then think he wants to legalize rape. That doesn't logically follow. Where is the exemption? Where was he quoted saying this?

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    Re: Spousal Rape - Crime of Rape, or Not ?????

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Yeah, hot is nice but I tend to avoid crazy.
    Every time, I would rather an average lady who makes me happy over a gorgeous psychopath. Then to come back to topic, I've heard the latest craze is rape play, I don't like that idea because it could have a chilling affect on actual rape cases.
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    Re: Spousal Rape - Crime of Rape, or Not ?????

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    My buddy is a JPO with the state, one of his colleagues used to date a woman who had a very odd fetish, a very concerning fetish, and a very dangerous fetish. The woman insisted he have his loaded(had to be loaded) firearm in her mouth with his hand on the trigger. For some reason she had to be on the razor's edge to be able to climax but that is about as dangerous as it gets IMO, needless to say the guy was getting worried about an accidental trigger pull because of the nature of what they were doing and left her, but damn, I don't think I could ever grant that request.
    I would've just left the safety on and not told her about it.

    I'd switch out the mag with dummy rounds too, probably.

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    Re: Spousal Rape - Crime of Rape, or Not ?????

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    I would've just left the safety on and not told her about it.

    I'd switch out the mag with dummy rounds too, probably.
    Still, I would be worried about any other issues someone like that has.
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    Re: Spousal Rape - Crime of Rape, or Not ?????

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Still, I would be worried about any other issues someone like that has.
    Total psycho. No doubt about it. Lol

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    Re: Spousal Rape - Crime of Rape, or Not ?????

    If marriage meant that my partner was always horny and would have sex with me at a moment's notice, then it wouldn't be a crime. However, that is not the case.

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    Re: Spousal Rape - Crime of Rape, or Not ?????

    Senator Black said he didn't know how you could get a conviction....



    That's why I've been asking members here the same thing, and no-one on this thread knows how to get a conviction either.

    He opposed it because he didn't see how you could enforce it, not because he thought marriage was perpetual consent and therefore rape couldn't occur.

    Rape is rape. If you can prove rape then it shouldn't matter that the perp is married to the victim.
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    Re: Spousal Rape - Crime of Rape, or Not ?????

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I don't see how you're getting "there should be an exemption again that basically allows for men to rape their wives" out of that. It doesn't make sense how someone cold read what you just quoted and then think he wants to legalize rape. That doesn't logically follow. Where is the exemption? Where was he quoted saying this?
    Because the argument was made to keep the exemption in place to begin with. The argument was being made by him during the vote to repeal a VA ban on prosecution of marital/spousal rape. That says that he wanted the ban on prosecution to remain, meaning that it would prevent husbands from being charged with rape of their wives.
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    Re: Spousal Rape - Crime of Rape, or Not ?????

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Senator Black said he didn't know how you could get a conviction....



    That's why I've been asking members here the same thing, and no-one on this thread knows how to get a conviction either.

    He opposed it because he didn't see how you could enforce it, not because he thought marriage was perpetual consent and therefore rape couldn't occur.

    Rape is rape. If you can prove rape then it shouldn't matter that the perp is married to the victim.
    On the contrary, I gave you several ways that a person could get convicted of rape during marriage. And, as I said then, it is not right to have laws that prevent prosecution of husbands for rape in place (which was what this guy was fighting to keep in place) just because there would be a problem with proof in many cases.

    And that little snippet was not the whole of his argument either. He also argued that there would be a potential issue with the reputation of these husbands should a wife falsely accuse him of rape. The problem with this is that there was no reduction in the amount of proof required to show that a wife was raped when compared to some other woman. The proof required would be the same. And as long as there are any laws against rape, anyone could bring false accusations against someone else, even if the person is married.
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