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Thread: 13 years old should be the legal age of an adult?

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    Re: 13 years old should be the legal age of an adult?

    It depends on the society. In Western society at this time in history, a 13 year old is a child. In other societies, now and in the past, a 13 or 14 year old is/was considered an adult....more mature, more responsible and they act it. There is no way that a 13 year old could be considered an adult in Western society. It should not drop below 18 though, as I want 18 year olds held responsible for crimes they commit.

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    Re: 13 years old should be the legal age of an adult?

    There is nothing adult about a 13-year-old. I don't care what time in history it was or what geographical location they live in. Not only do they lack any kind of experience, but their brains and bodies are not fully mature yet. And THAT is scientific evidence right there.

    We made LOTS of mistakes in the past and treating children as adults is just one of them.

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    Re: 13 years old should be the legal age of an adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    So what group of morons is proposing this?
    Pedophiles.

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    Re: 13 years old should be the legal age of an adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
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    drinking
    gun ownership
    choice to go to school or not
    work
    sex
    draft into war or volunteer
    drive
    fla a plane
    Drinking I think should be 18.
    Gun ownership should be up to the family.
    Choice of school should not be an option until high school is completed.
    Work is good at any age under the right conditions.
    Draft into war or volunteer should not be allowed until 21.
    Driving should be based on things other than age.
    Fly a plane; see driving.

    I'd also add that the right to vote should be restricted to people older than 18. I'd go with 25 but certainly over 18 and definitely not 13.
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    Re: 13 years old should be the legal age of an adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    Is there anybody that honestly agrees/thinks that 13 should be the legal adult age and this means TOTAL ADULT
    living on thier own all rights that a 18 year old has and more
    drinking
    gun ownership
    choice to go to school or not
    work
    sex
    draft into war or volunteer
    drive
    fla a plane
    etc etc

    So the question is:

    Should 13 be the legal age of full adult and rights and do you consider them equal to 18yr old

    yes of course no doubt
    yes with some concern
    no but maybe 16
    no thats insane
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    and if you do i would LOVE to hear any facts or sound logic backing this claim up.

    being 13 once, having a large family, raising a daughter passed that point and working with 13yr olds for 11 years I personally think this idea is mentally insane, irrational, delusional and has zero logic to support it.

    many 13 yr olds would kill themselves and others if treated like adults
    Who on earth actually argued that? Who did you quote?
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    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
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    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: 13 years old should be the legal age of an adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    Who on earth actually argued that? Who did you quote?
    That's a good question that I would also like to know.

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    Re: 13 years old should be the legal age of an adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    Is there anybody that honestly agrees/thinks that 13 should be the legal adult age and this means TOTAL ADULT
    living on thier own all rights that a 18 year old has and more
    drinking
    gun ownership
    choice to go to school or not
    work
    sex
    draft into war or volunteer
    drive
    fla a plane
    etc etc

    So the question is:

    Should 13 be the legal age of full adult and rights and do you consider them equal to 18yr old

    yes of course no doubt
    yes with some concern
    no but maybe 16
    no thats insane
    other



    and if you do i would LOVE to hear any facts or sound logic backing this claim up.

    being 13 once, having a large family, raising a daughter passed that point and working with 13yr olds for 11 years I personally think this idea is mentally insane, irrational, delusional and has zero logic to support it.

    many 13 yr olds would kill themselves and others if treated like adults
    drinking: It was 21, changed to 18 in the late 60’s and is now back to 21. 21 is probably right if we just go by age and not on individual characteristics or maturity

    gun ownership: My dad bought me my first gun for my 10th birthday. Back in those days I could buy shells for it down at the Western Auto with no questions asked.

    choice to go to school or not: Once one has finished Junior High, let it be on them or their parents. One of the problems today is we are keeping kids who do not want to be in school who disrupt and cause trouble causing those who do want to learn to learn less in a dumbed down curriculum to try to keep kids in school who aren’t learning anyway.

    work: 16 for jobs like in a factory in the city.

    sex: How can one put an age on when someone has sex? But whatever age they are, they need to be held accountable for their actions.

    draft into war or volunteer: 18

    drive: 16

    fly a plane: 21

    So the question is:

    Should 13 be the legal age of full adult and rights and do you consider them equal to 18yr old

    I would say a graduated scale along the lines of my answers above. Is an 18 year old an adult, yes in some areas and no in others. The same can be said of some 13 year olds. Some of them act more like an adult than some 25-30 year olds or older.
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    Re: 13 years old should be the legal age of an adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    drinking: It was 21, changed to 18 in the late 60’s and is not back to 21. 21 is probably right if we just go by age and not on individual characteristics or maturity

    gun ownership: My dad bought me my first gun for my 10th birthday. Back in those days I could buy shells for it down at the Western Auto with no questions asked.

    choice to go to school or not: Once one has finished Junior High, let it be on them or their parents. One of the problems today is we are keeping kids who do not want to be in school who disrupt and cause trouble causing those who do want to learn to learn less in a dumbed down curriculum to try to keep kids in school who aren’t learning anyway.

    work: 16 for jobs like in a factory in the city.

    sex: How can one put an age on when someone has sex? But whatever age they are, they need to be held accountable for their actions.

    draft into war or volunteer: 18

    drive: 16

    fly a plane: 21

    So the question is:

    Should 13 be the legal age of full adult and rights and do you consider them equal to 18yr old

    I would say a graduated scale along the lines of my answers above. Is an 18 year old an adult, yes in some areas and no in others. The same can be said of some 13 year olds. Some of them act more like an adult than some 25-30 year olds or older.
    Where are these 13-year-olds who act older than a 25 year old? I have yet to meet one.

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    Re: 13 years old should be the legal age of an adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    It used to be, in our more agrarian days, that at 14 you were a man in this country. These days, IMO a 21 year old is a child.
    I doubt many would want to go back and live the lifestyle which produced those 14 year old men. Or to be a bit more precise those who survived infancy to live to the ripe age of 14. Let's not forget the young ladies, I sure as hell didn't want my daughter to be having her first kid at 14.

    As far as LEGAL age, I don't think 13 is the threshold.

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    Re: 13 years old should be the legal age of an adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    Is there anybody that honestly agrees/thinks that 13 should be the legal adult age and this means TOTAL ADULT
    living on thier own all rights that a 18 year old has and more
    drinking
    gun ownership
    choice to go to school or not
    work
    sex
    draft into war or volunteer
    drive
    fla a plane
    etc etc

    So the question is:

    Should 13 be the legal age of full adult and rights and do you consider them equal to 18yr old

    yes of course no doubt
    yes with some concern
    no but maybe 16
    no thats insane
    other



    and if you do i would LOVE to hear any facts or sound logic backing this claim up.

    being 13 once, having a large family, raising a daughter passed that point and working with 13yr olds for 11 years I personally think this idea is mentally insane, irrational, delusional and has zero logic to support it.

    many 13 yr olds would kill themselves and others if treated like adults

    18 is probably too young.


    btw - a minor correction. You can get a student pilot's license at 16, 14 if the aircraft is a ballon or a glider. That would allow you to fly by yourself (no passengers) for purposes of practicing or meeting the hour and cross country requirements for a private pilot license which you can get at 17.

    In NY you can get a hunting license at 12. That allows you to take a rifle/shotgun into the field alone (at least as far as I know).

    Even so a lot of the 18 year olds I see seem to have an emotional age closer to 14 than 18.
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