View Poll Results: Multiculturalism or Melting pot?

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    8 18.60%
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Thread: Multiculturalism vs Melting pot

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    Re: Multiculturalism vs Melting pot

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Cultural pluralism, which the American system, and darn near what most self-expressed multiculturalists actually believe, merely states that one can keep portions of one's cultural identity, if it acknowledges and adapts to the dominant cultural system. Ie. Those who espouse multiculturalism in the United States typically mean that the government, institutions, and social workings of the country may be dominant, but if we include and respect the differences of one's former homeland, we can have a more harmonious and democratic way of life.
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    Re: Multiculturalism vs Melting pot

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Light View Post
    Whether or not I'm tolerant has little to do with an immigration policy that has no rhyme or reason, and is causing social problems in the urban centers. Like I said, it's the influx that's the problem, not immigration itself.
    I would say the abandonment of many urban centers in what many call 'white flight' to the suburbs and a lack of serious career opportunities left behind once that happened is the main cause of social problems in inner cities- that is the part not of the elite 'downtown' sector. Poorer folks don't go to the high-end districts to live- care for the rich folks kids and mow the lawn, but not live.

    Seems to me we store poor folks in one place and employ people in others.

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    Re: Multiculturalism vs Melting pot

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    The idea that they should assimilate to some arbitrary norm is patronizing and robs them of their god-given dignity.
    But it's you who went to America, America didn't come to you to tell you what to do. That said it's your duty to accept the language and the norms of that society. Don't like it? Good, go back from where you came. If you are a Mexican that has lived a decade in the U.S. and can't say a sentence in English, what American are you? (speaking hypothetically, not you exactly)
    As for the "less of American"... I think that if you are bilingual (English + mother tongue) you are less of American. If you have British or Aussie accent, you are less of American and so on and so forth.

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    Re: Multiculturalism vs Melting pot

    There isn't even a consistent American culture yet ...

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    Re: Multiculturalism vs Melting pot

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    I think that if you are bilingual (English + mother tongue) you are less of American. If you have British or Aussie accent, you are less of American and so on and so forth.
    What tosh! You seem to be equating American culture entirely with Anglo, white American culture. The strength of the US is that it is so much more than that. Monolingualism in any culture is neither desirable nor essential.
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    Re: Multiculturalism vs Melting pot

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    What tosh! You seem to be equating American culture entirely with Anglo, white American culture. The strength of the US is that it is so much more than that. Monolingualism in any culture is neither desirable nor essential.
    No, I'm just saying that "pure" Americans should speak "pure" American English, whether they have black, yellow or white skin.
    For example, you would be a bad American since your British English would ruin that. I however would be much worse since English is not mother tongue and I am a poor English speaker too.

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    Re: Multiculturalism vs Melting pot

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    But it's you who went to America, America didn't come to you to tell you what to do. That said it's your duty to accept the language and the norms of that society. Don't like it? Good, go back from where you came. If you are a Mexican that has lived a decade in the U.S. and can't say a sentence in English, what American are you? (speaking hypothetically, not you exactly)
    As for the "less of American"... I think that if you are bilingual (English + mother tongue) you are less of American. If you have British or Aussie accent, you are less of American and so on and so forth.
    Mighty fine set of eyes you have there to be able to see this Mexican fella who has lived here for a decade and can't say a sentence in English. Course you don't have a clue about how immigrants come to this country. A buds grandmother- straight from Poland- can barely say anything in English, no need for her to, her immediate family is bilingual and she lives in 'Little Warsaw' in Chicago. (it is changing these days but back when i was in the Service with my buddy it was and she never HAD to speak English.)

    same in most major cities through the our history, Little Italy, Little Moscow, Chinatown....

    Perhaps it is a good thing we don't let those outside our borders define those who live inside them. I've always seen being a nationality like being pregnant- can't be just a little bit...

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    Re: Multiculturalism vs Melting pot

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    No, I'm just saying that "pure" Americans should speak "pure" American English, whether they have black, yellow or white skin.
    For example, you would be a bad American since your British English would ruin that. I however would be much worse since English is not mother tongue and I am a poor English speaker too.
    What is it with all this "pure"?

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    Re: Multiculturalism vs Melting pot

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    A buds grandmother- straight from Poland- can barely say anything in English, no need for her to, her immediate family is bilingual and she lives in 'Little Warsaw' in Chicago. (it is changing these days but back when i was in the Service with my buddy it was and she never HAD to speak English.)
    Mexican, Polish, Russian, it doesn't matter for the Americanness.

    Quote Originally Posted by gunner View Post
    What is it with all this "pure"?

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    American I consider one that speaks American English fluently.
    English I consider one that speaks English fluently.
    Canadian I consider one that speaks Canadian English fluently.
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    Re: Multiculturalism vs Melting pot

    I voted Other because I don't particularly care which it is. If we as a country stick to the same basic elemental code of conduct -- murder and loud music at 2 in the morning are bad mmmkay -- then everything else is negotiable and for that matter the impact of everything else on one's daily routine is minimal.

    I say that as someone who largely keeps to himself and has minimal interest in the lives of his neighbors.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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