View Poll Results: Multiculturalism or Melting pot?

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Thread: Multiculturalism vs Melting pot

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    Re: Multiculturalism vs Melting pot

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Good luck with that. You know who else talked like that? The Nazis. Mind the company you keep.
    The Nazis were Christians. Mind the company you keep.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Multiculturalism vs Melting pot

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    The Nazis were Christians. Mind the company you keep.
    Your personal allergy to revelation notwithstanding, it wouldn't have worked anyway. Nazi's don't like consolidating non-Germanic cultures into Nazi society.
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    Re: Multiculturalism vs Melting pot

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    The Nazis were Christians. Mind the company you keep.
    LOL no they weren't. When did Jesus say "love thy neighbor, and then put him in a concentration camp."

    Oh that's right, he didn't.

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    Re: Multiculturalism vs Melting pot

    I see the point in the OP of parent cultures being displaced, and I don't think it has to do with the method but rather the speed of immigration. Really, in most developed places, immigration has no rhyme or reason. Globalization has caused a huge influx of foreigners into the more prosperous regions, without adequate time to let the parent cultures adjust. It's really quite disruptive.

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    Re: Multiculturalism vs Melting pot

    I think it's a little of both.

    The social base - "freedom, justice, and the American Way" LOL! - has to stay pretty homogeneous or we're no longer a country. (That's not to say there's can't be gradual change!) Everyone has to believe in and accept the same basic principles of freedom and law because that's our foundation in the West.


    But things like clothing and music styles, slang words and concepts, various social traditions and social "myths" (like hanging lights through the winter solstice or knock on wood) - we can all learn from that. Also, having those things around us teaches tolerance, another good thing for a civilized society or it ends up xenophobic and stagnate.
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    Re: Multiculturalism vs Melting pot

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    I have never heard of a liberal defend or advocate tolerance (for example) for a wife beater in the USA because that was the custom in his homeland. That is a false claim.
    I made no claim that liberals did this.I said multiculturalist leftists. You are awfully confused if you think the two are the same.

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    A liberal will argue that keeping an immigrant from beating his wife when that was acceptable back home requires a respectful and culturally sensitive approach to be most effective.
    An actual liberal would view the dynamic in terms of power,and would do all in their power to protect the chattel from abuse at the hands of her owner. It was not "cultural sensitivity" shown slave owners that ended the practice of slavery, and only multiculturalists prattle on about showing cultural sensitivity towards the oppressor instead of doing anything about it by way of holding accountable those engaging in it.

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    Liberals will also argue that invading or dominating another nation and forcefully imposing our customs, even if they are more enlightened, is not a good approach because it is likely to create a backlash. It is best to quietly and sensitively use non-profit advocacy to encourage positive change within the other country as much as possible. In some cases, sanctions and/or political pressure should be used to prevent major human rights violations, force/violence is rarely the most effective way to change other cultures, it should be reserved for genocide level atrocities.
    Multiculturalism has nothing to do with what happens outside a country,only what happens within. Foreign policy discussions are off topic here.
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    Re: Multiculturalism vs Melting pot

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    LOL no they weren't. When did Jesus say "love thy neighbor, and then put him in a concentration camp."

    Oh that's right, he didn't.
    Jesus didn't say fondle the little boys either, but alas....
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    Re: Multiculturalism vs Melting pot

    Not just a melting pot, but slowly cooking melting pot. Only the third or fourth generation can be 100% American.

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    Re: Multiculturalism vs Melting pot

    Quote Originally Posted by loader View Post
    Not just a melting pot, but slowly cooking melting pot. Only the third or fourth generation can be 100% American.
    Every American citizen is 100% American. Just because they don't talk, look, or act like you doesn't mean they're any less "American" than you are.

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    Re: Multiculturalism vs Melting pot

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Jesus didn't say fondle the little boys either, but alas....
    I don't have time for this kind of bigotry. Certain people are just going to be hateful I guess...

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