View Poll Results: What are your initial thoughts on the Verizon v. FCC decision?

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  • I disagree with the decision, but don't think there'll be a negative impact.

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Thread: Verizon v. FCC (Net Neutrality/ Internet Openness)

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    Re: Verizon v. FCC (Net Neutrality/ Internet Openness)

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Look at it from the point of view of my ISP, Time Warner Cable. They have the entire city of Dallas TX on lockdown, they're the only ones with the rights to lay down cabling and so you have a choice to either use their service or use the phone lines. They have these contracts in place for another decade or so.

    What incentive do they have to make my internet any faster? I'm stuck with them regardless.

    Therein lies the problem.
    Yes, exactly. They are a natural monopoly much like an electric company. Such a system simply can't function as a healthy free market, as a healthy free market depends upon competition and choice.

    If only the libertarian crowd could realize that the market principles they worship don't actually apply universally.
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    Re: Verizon v. FCC (Net Neutrality/ Internet Openness)

    Internet service seems like just one more thing that is bogged down by the constrains of capitalist profiteering. If servers and providers were publicly owned, there would be no need for this nonsense, and no need for all this jostling. When our services are owned by the public, only the public's interests are pursued, so there is no call for choking off speed for content that won't pay a premium. There's no call for censorship unless we allow private interests to control our government (we actually really suck at that one). Most of these problems disappear if we stop refusing to allow benefit to society without someone getting rich in the process.
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    Re: Verizon v. FCC (Net Neutrality/ Internet Openness)

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Yes, exactly. They are a natural monopoly much like an electric company. Such a system simply can't function as a healthy free market, as a healthy free market depends upon competition and choice.

    If only the libertarian crowd could realize that the market principles they worship don't actually apply universally.
    The only way I could see internet provision and the various utilities being competitive was if the infrastructure were owned by the state and ISP's, power companies, ect. competed for contracts to provide service and maintenance.
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    Re: Verizon v. FCC (Net Neutrality/ Internet Openness)

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Mostly political. I don't think it would have much effect overall, but gives the government more of a foot in the door on regulating information and content.
    ISP aren't simply private companies, despite their rhetoric. They're publicly subsidized geographic oligopolies--not only are the services delivered by running cables through public lands, streets, etc., but much of their infrastructure was developed w/the help of federal/state handouts paid for by taxes or via deficits. Hence, because they operate through public assistance, they must, in accordance w/the principals of the free market, be subject to its oversight.

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    Re: Verizon v. FCC (Net Neutrality/ Internet Openness)

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Yes, exactly. They are a natural monopoly much like an electric company. Such a system simply can't function as a healthy free market, as a healthy free market depends upon competition and choice.

    If only the libertarian crowd could realize that the market principles they worship don't actually apply universally.
    Then the libertarian crowd is being retarded because the facts are right in front of us: the USA's broadband is slower than at least 30 countries, hence those countries are doing something right and we are not.

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