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    Could people with cars be poor?

    Hi fellas,

    I recall one film ("Pay it forward") where an old woman was a bum and at the same time was driving some gas-guzzler* around.

    So, if one has money for car and gas, should s/he be considered poor? Should s/he receive welfare, food stamps and such? Please, discuss.


    * (well, at least from European perspective )

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    Re: Could people with cars be poor?

    I suspect that our standard of poor (in the US) is different from other standards around the world. Our poor live relatively comfortable lives in comparison to the areas I would consider poverty-stricken.
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    Re: Could people with cars be poor?

    There are charities that give free cars to the poor and also charities who provide working cars for working families.

    There are organizations that will repair cars for the poor.
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    Re: Could people with cars be poor?

    Very true - poverty standards are usually linked with amount of income. Then again, someone can be driving a rusted out 1977 Plymouth Volare, with no insurance and no registration in order to still get to a job, which pays $12,000 a year. That person may live in a nice trailer park, have two televisions, cable, a pet, a wife or husband and a child AND still get food stamps, disability or other compensation. To me, that's lower income class but not "poor". To me, poverty was the people living down the street from me when I was a kid - they had ripped clothes, bathed once a month, were dirty all the time and the rest of the kids at school stayed away from them because they were "different". These people were dirt poor and squatted in a house for years because they had no where else to go. I grew up poor but not THAT poor. Poverty has a different meaning than 30 years ago, and that was different than 30 years before that. What galls me a bit is when these lower income people are singled out who have all the niceties and entertainment options and are claimed to be "suffering". Many are still dirt poor and those people need assistance ... others who are called "poor" are not and it's time we made a distinction between definitions.
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    Re: Could people with cars be poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    Hi fellas,

    I recall one film ("Pay it forward") where an old woman was a bum and at the same time was driving some gas-guzzler* around.

    So, if one has money for car and gas, should s/he be considered poor? Should s/he receive welfare, food stamps and such? Please, discuss.


    * (well, at least from European perspective )
    Firstly, it depends on the car. There are lots of cars in Cuba, mostly models from the 50's and 60's, and I don't think anyone would claim that Cuba is a rich country.

    Secondly, a state of poverty, in my view, depends on your level of secure income not so much what you may possess at any given time. If you have significant assets, such as an inheritance, that would be different, but if you simply have what is considered the "necessities" of modern day life in North America, you can still be poor and/or living in poverty.

    Finally, I'd say it depends on where you live. If you live in NYC, having a car may be unnecessary and thus something that is wasting resources for someone living merely a subsistence existence, but if you live in the rural southern US, as an example, a car may be a necessity of existence and the only form of transportation available to many.

    I do find the question a little judgemental, however, and I personally hate itemizing a person's possessions when truly and fairly trying to determine their level of need.
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    Re: Could people with cars be poor?

    Hell, "poor" in the US means that your kids might have to choose between an Xbox One and a PS4 instead of getting them both.

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    Re: Could people with cars be poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    Hi fellas,

    I recall one film ("Pay it forward") where an old woman was a bum and at the same time was driving some gas-guzzler* around.

    So, if one has money for car and gas, should s/he be considered poor? Should s/he receive welfare, food stamps and such? Please, discuss.


    * (well, at least from European perspective )
    There are some people in my country, gypsies and people we call "cocalari" (romanians who behave like gypsies) who live in shambles or some ****ty apartments but drive mercedes benz or something. Now they aren't rich, they can't afford to live in a decent place but they afford to have a car to flash to their retarded friends and look cool when they drive to the club where they know their retarded friend the bouncer so they can get in.

    But sensible people who happen to live in poverty can own cars that are old or poorly maintained.

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    Re: Could people with cars be poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    Hi fellas,

    I recall one film ("Pay it forward") where an old woman was a bum and at the same time was driving some gas-guzzler* around.

    So, if one has money for car and gas, should s/he be considered poor? Should s/he receive welfare, food stamps and such? Please, discuss.


    * (well, at least from European perspective )
    our public transportation sucks here for a number of reasons. first, geography : the country is huge. second, reluctance to commit the money, and some public reluctance to use it, though that is changing.

    bottom line : you have to have a car here no matter how poor you are if you live in certain areas. for example, you cannot even get a taxi in my town. there aren't any. it's drive or walk.

    so yes, around here, you can be poor and have a car. without one, you're going to have a tough time making it at all.

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    Re: Could people with cars be poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    Hi fellas,

    I recall one film ("Pay it forward") where an old woman was a bum and at the same time was driving some gas-guzzler* around.

    So, if one has money for car and gas, should s/he be considered poor? Should s/he receive welfare, food stamps and such? Please, discuss.


    * (well, at least from European perspective )
    Not in Europe where they schemed to drive up gas prices so that the poor and lower middle class could no longer afford cars. In America, yes you can still be poor and have a car.
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    Re: Could people with cars be poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    our public transportation sucks here for a number of reasons. first, geography : the country is huge. second, reluctance to commit the money, and some public reluctance to use it, though that is changing.

    bottom line : you have to have a car here no matter how poor you are if you live in certain areas. for example, you cannot even get a taxi in my town. there aren't any. it's drive or walk.

    so yes, around here, you can be poor and have a car. without one, you're going to have a tough time making it at all.
    If this is poor, what is this?


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