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    Re: Could people with cars be poor?

    With a small handful of notable urban exceptions, not having a car in the United States is the equivalent of not being able to work, so it's not fair to equate owning a car with a higher class status anymore than owning pants or shoes.

    It's a circular problem for poor people: if you don't own a car you can't work, and if you do own a car then the insurance, registration, gas and, god forbid, the maintenance costs will kill you. And let's be 100% honest here: if you're poor, your car sucks and you're blowing thousands of dollars a year on repairs.
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    Re: Could people with cars be poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by Van Basten View Post
    I was always taught to not judge someone by their car. In America, or at least South Florida, you will see lower middle class Americans with a brand new, shiny Lexus in the driveway. YET, you can pass by a mansion with a few years old Ford truck and a Toyota Avalon.
    It's a funny thing: there is this reptilian part of my brain where every time I see someone driving a Jaguar I just assume he's rich, even though I'm perfectly old enough to know better. That person could be living in a studio apartment and the payments on the Jag could be killing him, but nope, the part of my brain that says "he's rich!" lights up anyway.

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    Re: Could people with cars be poor?

    Having a car, or $100 to spend on repairs, or $100 period does not mean a person is not poor.
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    Re: Could people with cars be poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    There are charities that give free cars to the poor and also charities who provide working cars for working families.

    There are organizations that will repair cars for the poor.
    Yes there are. I am such an organization.

    A couple of years ago my business was in danger of not being able to survive the winter. Things tend to slow down in auto repair here during the winter. So I approached a friend who makes silly money as a defense contractor to ask if he would loan me a couple thousand to weather the cold season. But he came up with an even better idea. Rather than loan me the money he made a (sizable) contribution to our church and created an emergency repair trust. So people in need would go to the church, the church would send them to me and I would assess the car. Then the church would pay for the needed repairs. The investor got a tax break, my work load increased and I had nothing to pay back, and a LOT of people were able to keep driving. One of the vehicles was a Chrysler 300 that got a new set of 4 18 inch tires. Not cheap. But the lady who had it was upside down in the car and couldn't sell it and her husband was in cancer treatment so they were down to her part time income. He recovered, went back to work, they donated the amount of the tires to the church to continue the program. But it took them a year. Don't be too quick to judge. It doesn't mean the people's situation had not taken a major turn after they had bought the car.

    I have also seen a family in line at the food distribution center in an Escalade. Just to make the point, yes, they were black. They came in several times over the course of a few months. Same kind of story. Family illness, job loss, etc. These days you can still see them at the food depot... on the other side, bagging food for others and contributing to the program with money for more food. These programs are intended to be temporary, and I have no problem with them being used this way, particularly when their situation improves and they come back to help which is very common in this area.

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    Re: Could people with cars be poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    There are charities that give free cars to the poor and also charities who provide working cars for working families.

    There are organizations that will repair cars for the poor.
    Yes there is. But only if the car is worth it.

    I've volunteered many hours doing auto mechanic work for a local charity that caters to homeless women who are fleeing abusive relationships.

    Helping them get safe, reliable transportation is very important in their quest to take their life and independence back.

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    Re: Could people with cars be poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    With a small handful of notable urban exceptions, not having a car in the United States is the equivalent of not being able to work, so it's not fair to equate owning a car with a higher class status anymore than owning pants or shoes.

    It's a circular problem for poor people: if you don't own a car you can't work, and if you do own a car then the insurance, registration, gas and, god forbid, the maintenance costs will kill you. And let's be 100% honest here: if you're poor, your car sucks and you're blowing thousands of dollars a year on repairs.
    And to make matters worse you can't fix many things yourself any longer. When I was a poor college kid I did most of my maintenance and repair work myself. If the car needed to be off the ground there was a place nearby that rented lift time. But my old 66 and 78 Chryslers were mostly mechanical beasts that didn't require lots of expensive or specialized tools. Most modern cars have so much electronics anything beyond oil, light bulbs and brakes is probably beyond most owners.
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    Re: Could people with cars be poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Poor does not necessarily mean broke.
    That is the first intelligent statement I've seen from you. Congrats.

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    Re: Could people with cars be poor?

    we are car poor with 4 and no kids at home

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    Re: Could people with cars be poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    A car seems far more a necessity to me.
    Yeah but you could always take the bus, train, bicycle, walk, etc. Not to mention that gas is just one expense. Maintenance is the big money-guzzler, especially if you have an old car which "poor" people presumably have. Taxes, insurance and so on.
    Now I get it that it could be a little hard in Canada to walk long distances or at -30 ºC but you grandpa didn't have a warm car too, did he?

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    Re: Could people with cars be poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    we are car poor with 4 and no kids at home
    Could you translate that into English?

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