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  • It occurs naturally regardless of how severe or minute those changes are.

    20 31.75%
  • It occurs naturally with small and severe changes, some of it is anthropogenic.

    28 44.44%
  • It occurs naturally with small changes,but severe changes are anthropogenic.

    8 12.70%
  • It does not occur naturally, any changes we have now are anthropogenic.

    3 4.76%
  • Climate change does not occur.There is no global warming or cooling.

    0 0%
  • I do not know/other.

    4 6.35%
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    Re: What is your view on climate change?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Come back and tell us all about it after your seaside home is destroyed by climate change.

    What causes climate change doesn't really matter.

    What does matter is that those who don't prepare for it will suffer the consequences.

    Wait and see.

    I have little pity for those who, out of wrong-headed stupidity don't prepare and let mother nature destroy what they have built.
    How big a sea level rise are you expecting?

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    Re: What is your view on climate change?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tim the plumber View Post
    How big a sea level rise are you expecting?



    Who cares what I, you or anyone else expects?

    What matters is how prepared those who live in low-lying ares are for any sea level rise.

    Those who fail to prepare will suffer the consequences.

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    Re: What is your view on climate change?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    The atmosphere of the planet Earth is only 4 miles or less high, for the purposes of human and other organisms. Calculate what the volume and weight of that atmosphere and then consider if 6 or 7 billion polluters on the planet could generate a cause and effect relationship on that atmosphere. There really isn't too much atmosphere to work with. In a fantasy world, we could pretend that we aren't polluting or you can look at the smoker next to you or hold your hand over the end of the tailpipe of a running auto or truck if you want a reality check. Then there is water. Maybe a trip to the huge Ocean "dead zones" could cause a synaptic trigger to initiate a thought that perhaps, collectively, we are rapidly screwing up this planet. I know we personally will be dead before the effects are dramatic, and that would just emphasize our collective lack of responsibility. Like it or lump it, we need to adjust our lifestyles to nearly Amish sensibilities.
    We must establish a natural relationship with the Planet.



    Some people are opposed to this idea and they are entitled to their opinion.

    But if the human race doesn't start treating this planet a little better it really needs to start looking for another one.

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    Re: What is your view on climate change?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Who cares what I, you or anyone else expects?

    What matters is how prepared those who live in low-lying ares are for any sea level rise.

    Those who fail to prepare will suffer the consequences.

    If the rise is not significant then there's not a lot of point worrying about it.

    How big a rise do you think is going to happen?

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    Re: What is your view on climate change?

    We Humans have enough real problems ahead of us without contriving imaginary
    windmills to tilt.
    Long term, weather Co2 is a major factor or not, is irrelevant.
    The technology is already invented to solve the problem.
    The cost of the inorganic fuels may be higher than Americans pay now,
    but lower than Europeans pay.
    It turns out hydrocarbons my be both the problem and the solution.
    Nature shows us the best way to store energy, we duplicate it.
    And the infrastructure is already in place.
    Storing green electricity as natural gas - Press Release May 5 2010
    Fueling the Fleet, Navy Looks to the Seas - U.S. Naval Research Laboratory
    Audi opens 6 MW power-to-gas facility: pv-magazine
    I could envision an energy credit system, where anyone who creates energy, can get credits
    that can be saved to use in winter, spent at the gas pump, or purchase electricity.
    Energy storage was always the real problem, and now a solution has been found.
    FYI: I think modern refineries are already rearranging the hydrocarbon molecules to increase yields
    of high demand fuels. (If someone is a Petroleum Engineer, maybe they could confirm this.)

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    Re: What is your view on climate change?

    Please repost the poll once the definition of "climate change" quits changing and stabilizes to something on which we can all disagree more cogently.
    Who chimes "No Absolutes!" chimes absolutely.

    zoom zoom

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    Re: What is your view on climate change?

    For my short life span, climate changed several times. As an aside of warming, and in the direction of cooling.
    Of course, this does not mean that we must artificially degrade nature. And do not think that, aftermath of human activity, do not affect the climate on Earth, but should not exaggerate this effect.

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    Re: What is your view on climate change?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tim the plumber View Post

    If the rise is not significant then there's not a lot of point worrying about it.

    How big a rise do you think is going to happen?





    I



    I've already answered this question.

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    Re: What is your view on climate change?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Some people are opposed to this idea and they are entitled to their opinion.

    But if the human race doesn't start treating this planet a little better it really needs to start looking for another one.
    I like your statement. But still, humanity in this form as it is now, not survive the next coming soon Ice period. We live at the end of a short period of warming, which periodically occurs between long periods of cooling.
    An ice age, or more precisely, a glacial age, is a period of long-term reduction in the temperature of the Earth's surface and atmosphere, resulting in the presence or expansion of continental and polar ice sheets and alpine glaciers. Within a long-term ice age, individual pulses of cold climate are termed "glacial periods" (or alternatively "glacials" or "glaciations" or colloquially as "ice age"), and intermittent warm periods are called "interglacials". Glaciologically, ice age implies the presence of extensive ice sheets in the northern and southern hemispheres.[1] By this definition, we are still in the ice age that began 2.6 million years ago at the start of the Pleistocene epoch, because the Greenland, Arctic, and Antarctic ice sheets still exist.[2]
    From Wikipedia

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    Re: What is your view on climate change?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    I've already answered this question.

    Well, you already avoided this question.

    I ask again;

    What is the worst case you think is going to happen?

    And additionally why are you unhappy about answering it?

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