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Are you unemployed?

What is your employment status?

  • Full -- $50K or better

    Votes: 22 59.5%

  • Full -- $25K - $50K

    Votes: 6 16.2%

  • Full - $10K - $25K

    Votes: 2 5.4%

  • Full - Under $10K

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Part - Over $25K

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Part - $10K - $25K

    Votes: 3 8.1%

  • Part - Under $10K

    Votes: 2 5.4%

  • Unemployed - Supported by family

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Unemployed - receiving unemployment benefits

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Unemployed - No income at all

    Votes: 2 5.4%
  • Total voters
    37
ronpaulvoter

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What is your employment status?

Are you fully, part-time, or unemployed?

I'll bet the true unemployment percentage is much greater than most people realize.

I understand that unemployment percentages are calculated by using those that collect unemployment benefits, and the rest of them are not counted at all.

With only ten options, I could not list them all. If your situation is "other," explain in your post.

If you are unemployed, how long?
 
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ronpaulvoter said:
What is your employment status?

Are you fully, part-time, or unemployed?

I'll bet the true unemployment percentage is much greater than most people realize.

I understand that unemployment percentages are calculated by using those that collect unemployment benefits, and the rest of them are not counted at all.
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You are both correct and not telling us anything new. In addition, did you know that it doesn't figure how many are underemployed where underemployment, iirc, is defined as making less than 75% of your previous position or position pre-recession.
 
Underemployed, unfortunately. Between drill pay and my other job, I rake in a little under 20K a year.

It's rather pitiful, all told. :lol:
 
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ronpaulvoter said:
What is your employment status?

Are you fully, part-time, or unemployed?

I'll bet the true unemployment percentage is much greater than most people realize.

I understand that unemployment percentages are calculated by using those that collect unemployment benefits, and the rest of them are not counted at all.
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That is why a much better statistic is the number of people employed and that number compared with the number of persons who could work or with the total population. Which is better depends on what you want to know.
But definitely the unemployment rate is deceptive.
 
Employed but I won't vote because it will mess with the stats since I don't live in the USA.
 
ronpaulvoter said:
What is your employment status?

Are you fully, part-time, or unemployed?

I'll bet the true unemployment percentage is much greater than most people realize.

I understand that unemployment percentages are calculated by using those that collect unemployment benefits, and the rest of them are not counted at all.

With only ten options, I could not list them all. If your situation is "other," explain in your post.

If you are unemployed, how long?
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It actually calculates those actively seeking jobs, the rest are not counted. The actual unemployment rate is probably 12-13% not the 6.7% that got reported. Count the underemployed and its probably over 25%
 
Gathomas88 said:
Underemployed, unfortunately. Between drill pay and my other job, I rake in a little under 20K a year.

It's rather pitiful, all told. :lol:
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I'm lookin to go from AD to reserves/NG
 
Employed and making a considerable amount, but in the past couple of weeks, one of my former employers is expanding and is actively pursuing getting me back at an increase in pay, plus another company that I previously considered has decided that they want me too. I'm just waiting for actual offers to see what I want to do. It's nice to be wanted.
 
Unemployed student/intern
 
lulz

Peasants.
 
ronpaulvoter said:
What is your employment status?

Are you fully, part-time, or unemployed?

I'll bet the true unemployment percentage is much greater than most people realize.

I understand that unemployment percentages are calculated by using those that collect unemployment benefits, and the rest of them are not counted at all.

With only ten options, I could not list them all. If your situation is "other," explain in your post.

If you are unemployed, how long?
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I would technically be a "discouraged worker" as I lost my job in 2008... but I disappeared from the unemployed world as I was not looking for work. Instead, I started a business, which now has over 70 employees (which, but the way in the the DoL sampling of unemployment, as I report my payroll and employment stats to them once a month) Certainly I have had much discouragement through that journey.
 
ronpaulvoter said:
I understand that unemployment percentages are calculated by using those that collect unemployment benefits, and the rest of them are not counted at all.
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You understand incorrectly. Unemployed is defined as wanting to work, could take a job if offered, and actively looked for work in the last 4 weeks. Before 1967, there was no set time limit, it was just actively looking for work. But job search has always been part of it, and benefits never have been.
 
Steve Ja said:
It actually calculates those actively seeking jobs, the rest are not counted. The actual unemployment rate is probably 12-13% not the 6.7% that got reported
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what definition are you using and what m a les it "actual?" And even if you added everyone who says they want a job it would only be 10.2% And that's including those who haven't tried to work in over a year, and those that couldn't take a job if offered.

Count the underemployed and its probably over 25%
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How are you define underemployed and how could we measure that?
 
pinqy said:
what definition are you using and what m a les it "actual?" And even if you added everyone who says they want a job it would only be 10.2% And that's including those who haven't tried to work in over a year, and those that couldn't take a job if offered.


How are you define underemployed and how could we measure that?
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I read the figure is actually 12-13% if you count everyone who gave up looking for work, but actually wants to work. Also the underemployed figure adds those with part time jobs, that want full time jobs. also something i read.
 
Steve Ja said:
I read the figure is actually 12-13% if you count everyone who gave up looking for work, but actually wants to work.
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Maybe you read it a couple of years ago? December numbers are in Table A-1
Actual UE rate is 10,351,000/154,937=6.7%
We see that "not in the Labor Force, persons who currently want a job" is 6,111,000
Plugging that in: (10,351,000+6,111,000)/(154,937,000+6,111,000)= 16,462,000/161,048,000=10.2%
 
pinqy said:
Maybe you read it a couple of years ago? December numbers are in Table A-1
Actual UE rate is 10,351,000/154,937=6.7%
We see that "not in the Labor Force, persons who currently want a job" is 6,111,000
Plugging that in: (10,351,000+6,111,000)/(154,937,000+6,111,000)= 16,462,000/161,048,000=10.2%
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I read today it was actually closer to 12 million not 6. Either way, the figures should report those that want to work, but gave up. I mean lets be straight up with the people that trust you to govern them, that voted you in to look out for their best interests. Transparent governing is the best governing. It might get more people interested in what's going on in the country they live in
 
Unsurprisingly, DP membership seems to tilt heavily towards the right side of the bell curve.
 
Steve Ja said:
I read today it was actually closer to 12 million not 6.
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A number of economists look past the "main" unemployment rate to a different figure the Bureau of Labor Statistics calls "U-6," which it defines as "total unemployed, plus all marginally attached workers plus total employed part time for economic reasons, as a percent of all civilian labor force plus all marginally attached workers."

Main-vs-U6-jobs.png
 
Steve Ja said:
I read today it was actually closer to 12 million not 6. Either way, the figures should report those that want to work, but gave up. I mean lets be straight up with the people that trust you to govern them, that voted you in to look out for their best interests. Transparent governing is the best governing. It might get more people interested in what's going on in the country they live in
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Table A-16 Those who "gave up" are the discouraged. Adding them in is th U-4 underutilization rate, which is now 7.2% (Table A-15)
As much information as possible is published: Current Population Survey (CPS)
 
ronpaulvoter said:
What is your employment status?
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Are you fully, part-time, or unemployed?

I'll bet the true unemployment percentage is much greater than most people realize.

I understand that unemployment percentages are calculated by using those that collect unemployment benefits, and the rest of them are not counted at all.

With only ten options, I could not list them all. If your situation is "other," explain in your post.

If you are unemployed, how long?
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I am retired.

I don't have a job, I'm not looking for a job, and I don't want a job.

Anything that I do, I do because I want to do it.

Not because someone told me that if I don't get it done, I'll be looking for a job.

That's the way that it is.

BTW: The poll sucks. You left out a lot of possibilities.
 
Full employment, 50k or better.

I WAS unemployed for 7 months, what, two years ago now? Had to start over, from a 9 dollar an part time job, to mid manager, then senior. Now I'm gunning for a district level job, but that might take some time.

Not really what I want to do, working in retail is pretty hateful for numerous reasons.
 
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