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Thread: Sophistication,honesty, or a bit of both?

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    Re: Sophistication,honesty, or a bit of both?

    I grew in rural Arkansas in the mountains. We were about as country as it gets. We heated exclusively with a wood stove, a good portion of our diet was deer, squirrel, wild hogs, catfish, and what we grew in the garden, for a while lived in a shotgun house (the foundation was piles of rocks), was on a party line (and this was in the 80s), and our closest neighbor was an old illiterate man that made whiskey. I now live in a major metro in the midwest. I really don't think people in rural areas are any kinder than people in cities. In both places there are really good people and really crappy people. I have never found any correlation between how educated and well traveled someone is and how nice they are. I have known very educated people that were some of the nicest most down to earth people you could meet, and I have know some illiterate white trash assholes too. The only thing I have found is that the more well traveled someone is, generally the more tolerant of different cultures, races, ethnicities and so on they are. However, thats not always true either.
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    Re: Sophistication,honesty, or a bit of both?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    The only thing I have found is that the more well traveled someone is, generally the more tolerant of different cultures, races, ethnicities and so on they are. However, thats not always true either.
    Probably the wisest thing I've read in a while.

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    Re: Sophistication,honesty, or a bit of both?

    Quote Originally Posted by Starbuck View Post
    Yea, it was pretty rude.

    I get the whole North v. South rivalry, but I don't see the point in treating people you don't know rudely based upon their accent. However, I know that the silent majority of the people living in the south don't really treat people that way. It's just the loud type's are more noticeable.
    Man, I hear that. There's no shortage of such dicks here. They're really brazen about it, too.

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    Re: Sophistication,honesty, or a bit of both?

    Quote Originally Posted by NoC_T View Post
    Man, I hear that. There's no shortage of such dicks here. They're really brazen about it, too.
    Yea, I did notice that while I was down there.

    I think that Boston is pretty similar in the fact that they are rude to people who aren't from there also. For every bit that I watched 'northerners' have a hard time down south, I've seen people in Boston give southerners/ outsiders a hard time.

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    Re: Sophistication,honesty, or a bit of both?

    Quote Originally Posted by Starbuck View Post
    Yea, I did notice that while I was down there.

    I think that Boston is pretty similar in the fact that they are rude to people who aren't from there also. For every bit that I watched 'northerners' have a hard time down south, I've seen people in Boston give southerners/ outsiders a hard time.
    Of course. It works both ways. A lot of it's the regional dialect thing. As though it's some badge of honour. **** if I know.

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    Re: Sophistication,honesty, or a bit of both?

    Quote Originally Posted by NoC_T View Post
    Of course. It works both ways. A lot of it's the regional dialect thing. As though it's some badge of honour. **** if I know.
    No that's definitely true.

    The same thing happens in other countries too, I was in Germany last year and witnessed similar treatment. Although, I think that Boston has a pretty strong anti-outsider attitude.

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    Re: Sophistication,honesty, or a bit of both?

    Quote Originally Posted by Starbuck View Post
    I've definitely observed this same slight and agree that it's usually uncalled for.

    Conversely, I've also observed the slight that people from the city are unable to care for themselves and well. . . cold hearted.
    I would agree that generalizations run both ways, unfairly so. My overall question here is mainly just out of a curious nature.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Sophistication,honesty, or a bit of both?

    Quote Originally Posted by Starbuck View Post
    Yea, it was pretty rude.

    I get the whole North v. South rivalry, but I don't see the point in treating people you don't know rudely based upon their accent. However, I know that the silent majority of the people living in the south don't really treat people that way. It's just the loud type's are more noticeable.
    I think it falls down to who you run in to. My last week at my college job I had a very nice couple that was from out of town, they told me they were touring Louisiana and the next stop was New Orleans so they were wondering if I had any advice about what they needed to know because it has as much of a reputation of being rough as it is cultural so I told them what I know about the city and just said be nice to the locals and you'll be okay, enjoy yourselves. The coastal portion of my state has some of the nicest people one could ever meet, the capital is full of rude and snobby people, but there are nice ones here or there, my city is a mixed bag.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Sophistication,honesty, or a bit of both?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    I grew in rural Arkansas in the mountains. We were about as country as it gets. We heated exclusively with a wood stove, a good portion of our diet was deer, squirrel, wild hogs, catfish, and what we grew in the garden, for a while lived in a shotgun house (the foundation was piles of rocks), was on a party line (and this was in the 80s), and our closest neighbor was an old illiterate man that made whiskey. I now live in a major metro in the midwest. I really don't think people in rural areas are any kinder than people in cities. In both places there are really good people and really crappy people. I have never found any correlation between how educated and well traveled someone is and how nice they are. I have known very educated people that were some of the nicest most down to earth people you could meet, and I have know some illiterate white trash assholes too. The only thing I have found is that the more well traveled someone is, generally the more tolerant of different cultures, races, ethnicities and so on they are. However, thats not always true either.
    I think I would actually go crazy outside of the city just because I like fast paced life, and the quiet would probably drive me nuts in the long term. I agree with all of this, I think my general musing to create the thread started in the extreme but your post is spot on.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Sophistication,honesty, or a bit of both?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    I would agree that generalizations run both ways, unfairly so. My overall question here is mainly just out of a curious nature.
    I suppose, if the two were in fact mutually exclusive I'd have to choose the sophisticated side of things.

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    I think it falls down to who you run in to. My last week at my college job I had a very nice couple that was from out of town, they told me they were touring Louisiana and the next stop was New Orleans so they were wondering if I had any advice about what they needed to know because it has as much of a reputation of being rough as it is cultural so I told them what I know about the city and just said be nice to the locals and you'll be okay, enjoy yourselves. The coastal portion of my state has some of the nicest people one could ever meet, the capital is full of rude and snobby people, but there are nice ones here or there, my city is a mixed bag.
    Everywhere has those same type of areas, I really need to spend more time in Louisiana. I was in Alabama and Mississippi for a while a few years back and it was pretty decent.

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