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Thread: Sophistication,honesty, or a bit of both?

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    Re: Sophistication,honesty, or a bit of both?

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Problem is, that without the sophistication we would often make decisions that are well meant but catastrophic.
    Not necessarily. I know a guy who, intellectually, is as dumb as a rock, but I envy his day-to-day common sense.

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    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Sophistication,honesty, or a bit of both?

    I don't think it's an either/or.

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    Re: Sophistication,honesty, or a bit of both?

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Problem is, that without the sophistication we would often make decisions that are well meant but catastrophic.
    Do you have any examples? I'm not sure what type of sophistication is normally required to make sound decisions. That sounds to me like a pretty broad definition of sophistication.
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    Re: Sophistication,honesty, or a bit of both?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Oh, most definitely. I've talked to a couple of people on the phone (that I know from online), who have never met me, and who are from other regions of the country. They are shocked, and have actually asked me if the accent is real, or if I'm faking it, as if my accent has anything whatsoever to do with my level of intelligence. There just seems to be a lot of people who are willing to dismiss you, if you don't sound like they do, or don't have the same educational level. Some of the most intelligent people I know are from southern Louisiana, and for the most part, they aren't highly educated. My sister, who lives in Oklahoma, and sounds even more "southern" than I, is one of the most intelligent people I know. There seems to be a general impression that southerners are stupid, which is no more true, than thinking that everyone from north of the Mason-Dixon line is intelligent.
    It's reversed where I am. The Northerners are stereotyped as being the thick ones.

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    Re: Sophistication,honesty, or a bit of both?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I lived both. Born and raised on a farm, I am now retired and living in the country. Along the way I have lived in some pretty big cities. I can say I much to be around and prefer the good neighborly country folks. I suppose you could call them unsophisticated. But I wouldn't say lacking in knowledge. Now that knowledge may not be the same as a city folk. It may be more down to earth and the kind of knowledge that is put to use day after day.

    I guess I made my choice, I can do without the city.
    That reminds me of a pretty funny situation I watched unfold in a rural mountain town several years back.

    We were eating lunch at a small hole-in-the-wall place, which happened to have a few wines to choose from, when a group of 'well-meaning suburbanites' walked in the door. They were obviously touring the mountain towns and feeling very superior to everyone they came across.

    When the lady running the place walked over to their table to take their order, they decide to start a conversation which went along these lines:

    Suburbanites: "We're on a trip through the mountains, from Sacramento.

    Lady running the place: "That's nice." (obviously not as impressed with Sacramento as the suburbanites were)

    Suburbanites: "This place is so quaint, did you grow up here and live here your whole life?"

    Lady running the place: "I'm from Oakland, near Jack London Square. I moved here to get away from the city."

    At that moment, the suburbanites became quiet and lost their air of superiority. It was pretty great, I hate people with superiority complexes.
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    Re: Sophistication,honesty, or a bit of both?

    Quote Originally Posted by NoC_T View Post
    It's reversed where I am. The Northerners are stereotyped as being the thick ones.
    When I was stationed in Virginia I noticed that too.

    Fortunately I never acquired a discernible accent, but when my parents flew down to visit me from Massachusetts a lot of people gave them a hard time.

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    Re: Sophistication,honesty, or a bit of both?

    Quote Originally Posted by Starbuck View Post
    When I was stationed in Virginia I noticed that too.

    Fortunately I never acquired a discernible accent, but when my parents flew down to visit me from Massachusetts a lot of people gave them a hard time.
    That's out of order. They're just snobby pricks. People get to believing their own press.

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    Re: Sophistication,honesty, or a bit of both?

    Quote Originally Posted by NoC_T View Post
    That's out of order. They're just snobby pricks. People get to believing their own press.
    What's out of order, the post or how people treated my parents?

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    Re: Sophistication,honesty, or a bit of both?

    Quote Originally Posted by Starbuck View Post
    What's out of order, the post or how people treated my parents?
    The way they treat your folks.

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    Re: Sophistication,honesty, or a bit of both?

    Quote Originally Posted by NoC_T View Post
    The way they treat your folks.
    Yea, it was pretty rude.

    I get the whole North v. South rivalry, but I don't see the point in treating people you don't know rudely based upon their accent. However, I know that the silent majority of the people living in the south don't really treat people that way. It's just the loud type's are more noticeable.

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