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Thread: Sophistication,honesty, or a bit of both?

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    Re: Sophistication,honesty, or a bit of both?

    I spent the first 5 years of my life in a tiny cabin up twenty miles of dirt road on the forested slopes of a volcano.

    I think it is quite possible to be scholarly AND rural,myself.
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    Re: Sophistication,honesty, or a bit of both?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Okay so I am curious, there has been for years a slight against people who are rural in nature and aren't necessarily the best educated or most traveled people. So here is the question, is it better to be worldly but dishonest or unsophisticated but good at heart? The reason I ask is that I've been thinking of a really rural parish in which my folks owned a camp for years prior to hurricane Rita, some of my favorite type of people lived along the route but they were not scholarly types, just people living their lives and being the best people they could be..............salt of the Earth types in my opinion and worth thousands of "scholarly peers".
    I lived both. Born and raised on a farm, I am now retired and living in the country. Along the way I have lived in some pretty big cities. I can say I much to be around and prefer the good neighborly country folks. I suppose you could call them unsophisticated. But I wouldn't say lacking in knowledge. Now that knowledge may not be the same as a city folk. It may be more down to earth and the kind of knowledge that is put to use day after day.

    I guess I made my choice, I can do without the city.
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    Re: Sophistication,honesty, or a bit of both?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I lived both. Born and raised on a farm, I am now retired and living in the country. Along the way I have lived in some pretty big cities. I can say I much to be around and prefer the good neighborly country folks. I suppose you could call them unsophisticated. But I wouldn't say lacking in knowledge. Now that knowledge may not be the same as a city folk. It may be more down to earth and the kind of knowledge that is put to use day after day.

    I guess I made my choice, I can do without the city.
    Oh I agree. I'm not in any way saying those people are stupid, just didn't have the college degree or "sophisticated" travel experience that I've personally seen people hold above everything in life including being a decent human being. I like the people of my city, we're not too big or small, but those country folks, many areas had less than 2K people, some places had maybe dozens were people with a lot of heart.
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    Re: Sophistication,honesty, or a bit of both?

    Believe it or not there was a time when comportment was tied to your education. Far too often today I see "educated" people who have the manners of a rabid baboon.

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    Re: Sophistication,honesty, or a bit of both?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Oh I agree. I'm not in any way saying those people are stupid, just didn't have the college degree or "sophisticated" travel experience that I've personally seen people hold above everything in life including being a decent human being. I like the people of my city, we're not too big or small, but those country folks, many areas had less than 2K people, some places had maybe dozens were people with a lot of heart.
    Yeah, it is a completely different life style. I guess some people need the excitement and the entertainment a big city has to offer. I don't, I much prefer the down home atmosphere. Besides I hate crowds and people living on top of one another. I value my space.
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    Re: Sophistication,honesty, or a bit of both?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    is it better to be worldly but dishonest or unsophisticated but good at heart? The reason I ask is that I've been thinking of a really rural parish in which my folks owned a camp for years prior to hurricane Rita, some of my favorite type of people lived along the route but they were not scholarly types, just people living their lives and being the best people they could be..............salt of the Earth types in my opinion and worth thousands of "scholarly peers".
    Given the two choices, I would go with unsophisticated but good at heart. That being said, there are scholarly people who are honest, and there are rural people who are not, so it really seems to depend on the individual. I know plenty of rural folks who are very intelligent, even if they didn't pursue higher education, so "scholarly" itself isn't any real measure of worth to me. I like who I like, regardless of educational background, or their rural or urban lifestyle.
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    Re: Sophistication,honesty, or a bit of both?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Given the two choices, I would go with unsophisticated but good at heart. That being said, there are scholarly people who are honest, and there are rural people who are not, so it really seems to depend on the individual. I know plenty of rural folks who are very intelligent, even if they didn't pursue higher education, so "scholarly" itself isn't any real measure of worth to me. I like who I like, regardless of educational background, or their rural or urban lifestyle.
    Same here, but I was remembering those people last night for whatever reason and when I hear some people slight "flyover country" I think it bugs me a bit that some dismiss good people for where they live or how much they studied, the way they speak, etc.
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    Re: Sophistication,honesty, or a bit of both?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Same here, but I was remembering those people last night for whatever reason and when I hear some people slight "flyover country" I think it bugs me a bit that some dismiss good people for where they live or how much they studied, the way they speak, etc.
    Oh, most definitely. I've talked to a couple of people on the phone (that I know from online), who have never met me, and who are from other regions of the country. They are shocked, and have actually asked me if the accent is real, or if I'm faking it, as if my accent has anything whatsoever to do with my level of intelligence. There just seems to be a lot of people who are willing to dismiss you, if you don't sound like they do, or don't have the same educational level. Some of the most intelligent people I know are from southern Louisiana, and for the most part, they aren't highly educated. My sister, who lives in Oklahoma, and sounds even more "southern" than I, is one of the most intelligent people I know. There seems to be a general impression that southerners are stupid, which is no more true, than thinking that everyone from north of the Mason-Dixon line is intelligent.
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    Re: Sophistication,honesty, or a bit of both?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Oh, most definitely. I've talked to a couple of people on the phone (that I know from online), who have never met me, and who are from other regions of the country. They are shocked, and have actually asked me if the accent is real, or if I'm faking it, as if my accent has anything whatsoever to do with my level of intelligence. There just seems to be a lot of people who are willing to dismiss you, if you don't sound like they do, or don't have the same educational level. Some of the most intelligent people I know are from southern Louisiana, and for the most part, they aren't highly educated. My sister, who lives in Oklahoma, and sounds even more "southern" than I, is one of the most intelligent people I know. There seems to be a general impression that southerners are stupid, which is no more true, than thinking that everyone from north of the Mason-Dixon line is intelligent.
    Yep. In fact I get people here who ask where I was from, because of the broadcasting curriculum I had to learn to speak with a flat Midwestern accent to be universally acceptable should I have chosen to pursue it. We do have a lot of very intelligent people in the south, one thing I tell people is I actually laugh at regional arrogance, because if someone were to take a southerner lightly in a debate it would be a huge mistake from a preparation standpoint.
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    Re: Sophistication,honesty, or a bit of both?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Okay so I am curious, there has been for years a slight against people who are rural in nature and aren't necessarily the best educated or most traveled people.
    I've definitely observed this same slight and agree that it's usually uncalled for.

    Conversely, I've also observed the slight that people from the city are unable to care for themselves and well. . . cold hearted.

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