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What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of America?

What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of America?


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Re: What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of Amer

John Carpenters The Thing 1982 best version so far IMHO
 
Re: What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of Amer

I think feminism has done irreputable damage. It has destroyed the family and destabalized society. I think we will be in for a rude awakening within the next 2 generations.
Feminism and socialist liberalism.
 
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1) What would you think of a person who earned $24,000 a year but spent $35,000? Suppose on top of that, he was already $170,000 in debt. You'd tell him to get his act together -- stop spending so much or he'd destroy his family, impoverish his kids and wreck their future. Of course, no individual could live so irresponsibly for long. But tack on eight more zeroes to that budget and you have the checkbook for our out-of-control, big-spending federal government. -- John Stossel

2) John Kitchen of the U.S. Treasury and Menzie Chinn of the University of Wisconsin published a study in 2010 entitled:

Financing U.S. Debt: Is There Enough Money in the World -- and At What Cost?

The fact that sane men are even asking this question ought to be deeply disturbing. As to the answer, foreign official holdings of U.S. Treasury securities have usually been less than 5 percent of the rest of the world's GDP. By 2009, they were up to 7 percent. By 2020, Kitchen and Chinn project them to rise to 19 percent of the rest of the world's GDP, which they say is....do-able. Whether the rest of the world will want to do it is another matter. A future that presumes the rest of the planet will sink a fifth of its GDP into U.S. Treasuries is no future at all. But on Big Government's streetcar named Desire we have come to depend on the kindness of strangers. -- Mark Steyn

3) The Federal Reserve is propping up the entire U.S. economy by buying 61 percent of the government debt issued by the Treasury Department, a trend that cannot last, Lawrence Goodman, a former Treasury official and current president of the Center for Financial Stability, writes in a Wall Street Journal opinion article published Wednesday. -- Newsmax

4) In fact, in 2006, the Census Bureau found only 2.2 million households earning more than $250,000. And most of those are closer to the Lubbock city manager than to Carlos Slim, income-wise. To jump from the 50th to the 51st percentile isn’t that tough; jumping from the 96th to the 97th takes a lot of schmundo. It’s lonely at the top.

But say we wanted to balance the budget by jacking up taxes on Club 250K. That’s a problem: The 2012 deficit is forecast to hit $1.1 trillion under Obama’s budget. (Thanks, Mr. President!) Spread that deficit over all the households in Club 250K and you have to jack up their taxes by an average of $500,000 -- which you simply can’t do, since a lot of them don’t have $500,000 in income to seize. Most of them are making $250,000 to $450,000 and paying about half in taxes already. You can squeeze that goose all day, but that’s not going to make it push out a golden egg.
Kevin Williamson

5) Within a decade, the United States will be spending more of the federal budget on its interest payments than on its military. You read that right: more on debt service than on the armed services. According to the CBO's 2010 long-term budget outlook, by 2020 the government will be paying between 15 and 20 percent of its revenues in debt interest. Whereas defense spending will be down between 14 and 16 percent. -- Mark Steyn

6) (In Pennsylvania, a) single mom is better off earning gross income of $29,000 with $57,327 in net income & benefits than to earn gross income of $69,000 with net income and benefits of $57,045." -- From Gary Alexander, Secretary of Public Welfare, Commonwealth of Pennsylvania

7) For every 1.65 employed persons in the private sector, 1 person receives welfare assistance. For every 1.25 employed persons in the private sector, 1 person receives welfare assistance or works for the government. ...The punchline: 110 million privately employed workers; 88 million welfare recipients and government workers and rising rapidly. -- Tyler Durden

8) My name’s Ronnie Bryant, and I’m a mine operator…. I’ve been issued a [state] permit in the recent past for [waste water] discharge, and after standing in this room today listening to the comments being made by the people…. [pause] Nearly every day without fail — I have a different perspective — men stream to these [mining] operations looking for work in Walker County. They can’t pay their mortgage. They can’t pay their car note. They can’t feed their families. They don’t have health insurance. And as I stand here today, I just … you know … what’s the use? I got a permit to open up an underground coal mine that would employ probably 125 people. They’d be paid wages from $50,000 to $150,000 a year. We would consume probably $50 million to $60 million in consumables a year, putting more men to work. And my only idea today is to go home. What’s the use? I don’t know. I mean, I see these guys — I see them with tears in their eyes — looking for work. And if there’s so much opposition to these guys making a living, I feel like there’s no need in me putting out the effort to provide work for them. So as I stood against the wall here today, basically what I’ve decided is not to open the mine. I’m just quitting. Thank you. -- Ronnie Bryant

9) Wyatt Emerich of The Cleveland Current analyzes disposable income and economic benefits among several key income classes and comes to the stunning (and verifiable) conclusion that "a one-parent family of three making $14,500 a year (minimum wage) has more disposable income than a family making $60,000 a year.

10) The typical husband and wife who reach age 66 and qualify for Social Security -- Starting next year, this typical couple, receiving the average benefit, will begin collecting a combination of cash and health-care entitlement benefits that will total $1 million over their remaining expected lifetime.

According to my calculations based on government data, such married couples will begin receiving monthly Social Security checks that will, on average, total about $550,000 after inflation. They will receive health-care services paid for by Medicare that, on average, will total another $450,000 after inflation. The benefactors will be a generation of younger workers who are trying to support themselves and their families while paying taxes to finance the rest of government spending.

...Medicare premiums paid by senior citizens once covered half of the cost of physician and related services. They now cover one-fourth. Copayments once covered nearly 40% of these services’ costs. They now cover only 20%. -- Joe Cogan

11) The CBO numbers foresee net interest payments rising from 9 percent of revenue to 36 percent in 2030, then to 58 percent in 2040, and up to 85 percent in 2050. If that trajectory holds, we'll be spending more than the planet's entire military budget on debt interest. But forget mid-century because, unless something changes, whatever goes by the name of "America" under those conditions isn't worth talking about. -- Mark Steyn

12) The total present value of payments expected under Social Security and Medicare beyond what is expected to be collected under current tax laws is about $100 trillion. One way to put that amount of money in context is to note that it is about twice the amount of all the net private assets that exist in America today. To answer cw’s question directly, the best back-of-envelope estimate is that meeting this unfunded portion of our Social Security and Medicare commitments would require roughly an immediate 80 percent increase in federal income taxes, sustained forever. — Jim Manzi

13) The total fiscal overhang of our federal, state, and local governments — their combined debt and unfunded liabilities — is around $140 trillion, and growing. That is about twice the annual economic output of human civilization, and nearly the value of all the financial assets in the world. It is something close to a mathematical certainty that those debts and obligations will not be made good on at their present value. -- Kevin Williamson
 
Re: What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of Amer

Many factors affect one's outlook about various things - history, current events, politics, religion, media, family & friends, personal character traits, life experiences, environment, upbringing, education, etc. etc. etc.

Just curious. Nothing ulterior, just curiosity.

What is your outlook re the future of the United States of America - and maybe why?

Very Optimistic
Somewhat Optimistic
Dunno
Somewhat Pessimistic
Very Pessimistic

I'm very bullish on America for one simple reason - Obama has about 3 years left, there's light at the end of the tunnel, and as the day of America's rebirth gets closer, American business and those who invest in America will be exploding with optimism and activity.
 
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We (The United States) created our "modern" infrastructure first, and therefore it is the oldest modern infrastructure in the world. It is crumbling. The things we do build and fix today, we build them only to last short term.
We are falling behind the entire world with our infrastructure to the point that many 3rd world Nations have aspects that are greater than our own.

Our education is falling behind the rest of the world with almost every 3rd world Asian Nation coming in ahead of us.
Instead of making improvements we are falling farther behind each year. Instead of teaching our children modern science, we are letting right wing fanatics stop our children from learning.

We do have some of the best medical care in the world for our rich. But for our poor, our medical care ranks among the worst on the planet with Nations like Cuba putting us to shame.
For our average citizen, lifespan and other medical stats are lagging behind the rest of the world. We continue to put the most money into it and get the least for our dollar.

Our politics has become completely dishonest. Most everything that comes out of the Right Wing is a complete deception. Non stop fake scandals and untruths are pumped out with unity.
Our Right Wing is completely fanatical and bent on our destruction, yet our Left Wing, if left unchecked, will swing too far left and create damage almost as severe.

I could come up with a lot more topics but am out of time.
Our future is bleak at best.
 
Re: What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of Amer

Many factors affect one's outlook about various things - history, current events, politics, religion, media, family & friends, personal character traits, life experiences, environment, upbringing, education, etc. etc. etc.

Just curious. Nothing ulterior, just curiosity.

What is your outlook re the future of the United States of America - and maybe why?

Very Optimistic
Somewhat Optimistic
Dunno
Somewhat Pessimistic
Very Pessimistic

I am debating within myself between somewhat pessimistic and very pessimistic. One reason the debt this country has rolled up with no end in sight. I am left with a feeling no one cares. The Democrats refuse to talk about and spend like there is no tomorrow, the Republicans talk about all day and night, but do nothing about it and when they are in power, spend like there is no tomorrow. Then there is the attitude within our political parties, the my way or the highway attitude. The no compromise if I do not get everything I want, then nothing is betting than 50%, 70%, 90% if I have to give the other even a little bit. I don’t see this changing, either the attitudes of our political parties or any attempt to bring our financial situation under control. Just the opposite.

I see both political parties using the problems of this nation to get votes and spout electoral rhetoric instead of trying to fix the problems or find solutions to our ills. I see a divide and conquer strategy from both parties, making us hate one another in search for votes. I see an omnipotent government which feels free to use all their power on their own citizens. I see where being self-reliant is punished because they are not depended on government. I see making one responsible for their own decisions, their actions, being responsible for one’s self is toss away with the notion that they aren’t responsible at all for what they do or decisions they made in their life. That it is all someone else’s fault.

I see a lifestyle with both individual and government that lives for today, tomorrow be damned. People and government for the first time I can remember willing to leave a country in much worse shape than when they came into her to their kids, grandkids etc. just so they can reap all the bounties available today. There is more, perhaps a book more, let’s say the debate is over, very pessimistic.
 
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I am debating within myself between somewhat pessimistic and very pessimistic. One reason the debt this country has rolled up with no end in sight. I am left with a feeling no one cares. The Democrats refuse to talk about and spend like there is no tomorrow, the Republicans talk about all day and night, but do nothing about it and when they are in power, spend like there is no tomorrow. Then there is the attitude within our political parties, the my way or the highway attitude. The no compromise if I do not get everything I want, then nothing is betting than 50%, 70%, 90% if I have to give the other even a little bit. I don’t see this changing, either the attitudes of our political parties or any attempt to bring our financial situation under control. Just the opposite.

I see both political parties using the problems of this nation to get votes and spout electoral rhetoric instead of trying to fix the problems or find solutions to our ills. I see a divide and conquer strategy from both parties, making us hate one another in search for votes. I see an omnipotent government which feels free to use all their power on their own citizens. I see where being self-reliant is punished because they are not depended on government. I see making one responsible for their own decisions, their actions, being responsible for one’s self is toss away with the notion that they aren’t responsible at all for what they do or decisions they made in their life. That it is all someone else’s fault.

I see a lifestyle with both individual and government that lives for today, tomorrow be damned. People and government for the first time I can remember willing to leave a country in much worse shape than when they came into her to their kids, grandkids etc. just so they can reap all the bounties available today. There is more, perhaps a book more, let’s say the debate is over, very pessimistic.

You're obviously a man who loves his country, Perotista, and I can understand how many loyal Americans must feel. Americans have turned on each other over the last generation while seeming to embrace every other cockamamie trend that comes along. The world needs a strong America and it would not be a better world if America is weakened.
 
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You're obviously a man who loves his country, Perotista, and I can understand how many loyal Americans must feel. Americans have turned on each other over the last generation while seeming to embrace every other cockamamie trend that comes along. The world needs a strong America and it would not be a better world if America is weakened.

America has always had it ills, it has did things wrong at times. She never was perfect but she always strove to be. Her leaders were human and bound to make mistakes, but her leaders had America and what she stood for in their hearts. I prefer to think as America as an ideal, not necessary a nation. Where everyone could partake of the American dream, that is if they worked hard enough to achieve it. Perhaps it was only a small slice of the dream, but it was there to be reached. Today I am not so sure. I wonder if the American dream and ideals she once stood for are a thing of the past.

When did the American dream and her ideals die? Did they die? They seem to have to me. Was there a slow erosion of the ideals and dream or did we have a turning point? An event or time frame when our leaders stopped trying to do what’s best for America and to keep her strong and prosperous in the future? Was it our leaders that did this or was it us, the people that became so greedy to have everything today at the expense of those not yet born, perhaps at the expense that America and what she once stood for would soon cease to exist.

I really do not know any answers, I just have questions. The only thing I know is I do not like what I see. I fear what the future may hold for my kids, my grandkids, my great grandkids, for America herself. I think America has become just a nation like any other, it is not longer that idea of what everyone else in the world hoped for. Very sad.
 
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As long as we can hold off the right libertarians from hijacking the republican party and getting into power that way, I am fairly optimistic.
 
Re: What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of Amer

Many factors affect one's outlook about various things - history, current events, politics, religion, media, family & friends, personal character traits, life experiences, environment, upbringing, education, etc. etc. etc.

Just curious. Nothing ulterior, just curiosity.

What is your outlook re the future of the United States of America - and maybe why?

Very Optimistic
Somewhat Optimistic
Dunno
Somewhat Pessimistic
Very Pessimistic

Somewhat optimistic. I believe we are on the verge of a Third Industrial Revolution that the United States with its vast technical and human capital is uniquely poised to take advantage of. I also think many exaggerate what they believe to be the fundamental and/or structural problems facing the country.
 
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Anyhow, very optimistic. We're still far and away the economic, military and technological leader in the world, have the most effective form of government yet known, and are free from many of the obstacles facing our potential replacements on the world stage.
 
Re: What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of Amer

America has always had it ills, it has did things wrong at times. She never was perfect but she always strove to be. Her leaders were human and bound to make mistakes, but her leaders had America and what she stood for in their hearts. I prefer to think as America as an ideal, not necessary a nation. Where everyone could partake of the American dream, that is if they worked hard enough to achieve it. Perhaps it was only a small slice of the dream, but it was there to be reached. Today I am not so sure. I wonder if the American dream and ideals she once stood for are a thing of the past.

When did the American dream and her ideals die? Did they die? They seem to have to me. Was there a slow erosion of the ideals and dream or did we have a turning point? An event or time frame when our leaders stopped trying to do what’s best for America and to keep her strong and prosperous in the future? Was it our leaders that did this or was it us, the people that became so greedy to have everything today at the expense of those not yet born, perhaps at the expense that America and what she once stood for would soon cease to exist.

I really do not know any answers, I just have questions. The only thing I know is I do not like what I see. I fear what the future may hold for my kids, my grandkids, my great grandkids, for America herself. I think America has become just a nation like any other, it is not longer that idea of what everyone else in the world hoped for. Very sad.

No country has ever been perfect but no country in modern times has been criticized as much as the United States, despite all the obvious competition out there.. A lot of this is a result of the leftover leftists from the Cold War, who swallowed the Communist anti-American propaganda whole, while others simply don't know what they have and are willing to throw it away on a whim, believing that somehow they deserve more than America is giving them. The loss of State Rights, and the growth in the power of the Federal Government will also become a bigger issue in the coming years. Of course the increase in the national debt is the silent stalker always looming ever closer.

It's difficult to remain optimistic when the will to change, in sufficient numbers, is obviously not there.
 
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Very optimistic. Cynics see only the bad.
 
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Very optimistic. Cynics see only the bad.

I'm more than willing to be optimistic if you can offer some support for your optimism..
 
Re: What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of Amer

No country has ever been perfect but no country in modern times has been criticized as much as the United States, despite all the obvious competition out there.. A lot of this is a result of the leftover leftists from the Cold War, who swallowed the Communist anti-American propaganda whole, while others simply don't know what they have and are willing to throw it away on a whim, believing that somehow they deserve more than America is giving them. The loss of State Rights, and the growth in the power of the Federal Government will also become a bigger issue in the coming years. Of course the increase in the national debt is the silent stalker always looming ever closer.

It's difficult to remain optimistic when the will to change, in sufficient numbers, is obviously not there.

Yes, I agree. It is getting harder and harder to be an optimist. JFK would be crucified today for saying" Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country." Way too many people look at Uncle Sam as they mommy and daddy and mommy and daddy is suppose to give them everything the need and want. Too many people are unwilling to give Uncle Sam anything in return. Such is the state of our country today.
 
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I think many people have been conditioned to see the end of an empire as synonymous with a country's bloody collapse, as if by the United States no longer being on top hordes of shirtless Visigoth warriors will automatically descend upon us, take our women and burn our buildings to the ground. Yes, our country is in decline and yes, others' stars are rising, but just as France and Britain are fine, we'll be fine too. Probably the most inconvenient changes we'll face is looking to other countries for buying our services and products, and having to learn other languages more than we currently are.
 
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I'm more than willing to be optimistic if you can offer some support for your optimism..
Richest, most powerful country on the planet. You're well regarded for the most part, despite all the foreign adventures. A First World democracy with enough heart to maintain a healthy dialogue of resistance and ongoing debate. I tend to view the US as a great experiment. One with every chance of limitless success. True, it's the heart of the beast from an economic standpoint, but this is inevitable as being the foremost superpower.

You've basically got it made. Realise where you're well off. Most of the world eats three square of dust and insects.
 
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Oh.. wow I had no idea... I suppose it makes sense back then woman took care of the kids while the dad made the food. now there is double the workers because of the influx of woman working and the job market can't handle it so they lower the paychecks to compensate for more workers... I had no idea but at the same time I think I support the idea of woman being equal in everyway... I'll have to think about this thank you for your reply

Having a parent at home focused on caring for children was never an option for many of the very poor, although some poor women worked on farms with their children or could do piecework at home. Also, child labor and very little education was quite common. The at-home mother focused on caring for the kids was a luxury primarilly for the middle class or richer, and many of them had slaves or servants who handled much of the childcare.
 
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Pretty pessimistic, all things considered. The U.S. will always be around but it's going to be a second rate nation. Our financial elites and politicians have completely sold us out. Since big corporations own most of the capital now, it's hard for anyone else to enter new markets but them. Our economic way of life involving a vibrant middle class is being supplanted by a new kind of plutocracy. I'm sure somewhere down the line humanity will rebel again, like they did with the monarchs. It just sucks that we have to keep going through this cycle before we just create a system that looks at the long-term benefit of humans and this entire planet.

Most western nations have invested heavily in China's shadow economy because of how cheap it makes their goods. Once China goes bust, the dominoes will really fall.

The world is really looking at the gradual end of the growth model, and it's a good thing. Given the realities of resource limitations that we now understand, a system where there is 0% growth or something close to it would be a lot more ideal. People who sacrifice huge amounts of resources for short-term gain should be criminals.
 
Re: What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of Amer

Pretty pessimistic, all things considered. The U.S. will always be around but it's going to be a second rate nation. Our financial elites and politicians have completely sold us out. Since big corporations own most of the capital now, it's hard for anyone else to enter new markets but them. Our economic way of life involving a vibrant middle class is being supplanted by a new kind of plutocracy. I'm sure somewhere down the line humanity will rebel again, like they did with the monarchs. It just sucks that we have to keep going through this cycle before we just create a system that looks at the long-term benefit of humans and this entire planet.

Most western nations have invested heavily in China's shadow economy because of how cheap it makes their goods. Once China goes bust, the dominoes will really fall.

The world is really looking at the gradual end of the growth model, and it's a good thing. Given the realities of resource limitations that we now understand, a system where there is 0% growth or something close to it would be a lot more ideal. People who sacrifice huge amounts of resources for short-term gain should be criminals.

Neo-malthusians need to go away forever.
 
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I'm in the "somewhat pessimistic" column, due to our long term economic outlook and our government debt.

My vote too. I would add the disappearance of our industrial/manufacturing sector, a shift in attitudes favoring making excuses for failure rather than working to avoid or get out of it, and the massive numbers of people receiving and expecting the government provide for them.
 
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For the US government, I don't have much hope. The statists have gotten control, so it will eventually go the way of all empires and collapse.

For the people of America, I am optimistic. Once they are free, they will prosper.
 
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OK maybe I'm gonna get attacked but here is my opinion for what America better do and it will be great again.

1. Stop fighting always. If one side will try to do something the other side will stop it. Even if it is best for America one side will not let the other side do it.

2. Get an actual foreign policy that is fair and stop changing it every six minutes. Fair means you stop blindly supporting Israel. It is OK to be friends and to support Israel but when you excuse war crimes it makes you an accomplice to war crimes.

3. Stop installing murdering regimes such as Saddam and Pinochet and others. When you do it then you are responsible for the murders and people begin to hate you as much as the regime you installed. And their hate does not end after the regime is ended.

4. Stop yelling you are the greatest nation on the world. Every time you say it you are saying that all we are inferior to Americans. It is arrogant, obnoxious and false. If your cousin said every time that he is the greatest person ever you will stop inviting him.
 
Re: What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of Amer

OK maybe I'm gonna get attacked but here is my opinion for what America better do and it will be great again.

1. Stop fighting always. If one side will try to do something the other side will stop it. Even if it is best for America one side will not let the other side do it.

2. Get an actual foreign policy that is fair and stop changing it every six minutes. Fair means you stop blindly supporting Israel. It is OK to be friends and to support Israel but when you excuse war crimes it makes you an accomplice to war crimes.

3. Stop installing murdering regimes such as Saddam and Pinochet and others. When you do it then you are responsible for the murders and people begin to hate you as much as the regime you installed. And their hate does not end after the regime is ended.

4. Stop yelling you are the greatest nation on the world. Every time you say it you are saying that all we are inferior to Americans. It is arrogant, obnoxious and false. If your cousin said every time that he is the greatest person ever you will stop inviting him.

It's always interesting to have European input.
 
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