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    Re: What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of Amer

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    At that time, and earlier, Americans tended to be responsible adults but now near half of them are dependent on government handouts. They had 'gumption' and the 'can do' spirit then, now rather old fashioned concepts.

    The Americans of today are not the Americans of yesterday, and that makes me quite pessimistic.
    A large % of those Americans dependent on government handouts are those Americans of yesterday.
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    Re: What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of Amer

    The greed and self centeredness of the people of this country from the president down to the poor is destroying our country.
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    Re: What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of Amer

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    A large % of those Americans dependent on government handouts are those Americans of yesterday.
    Yes, perhaps you're right. There will probably be enough money available for the older people but not so much for those now in their 50's.

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    Re: What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of Amer

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Tea Baggers created it, I would think it will. It even survived the Progressives successful banning of alcohol, so I'd think it's pretty resilient.
    You are probably right. Then again, the tea baggers have about as much in common as the patriots that founded the country as today's Republicans have in common with the Grand Ole Party.... How do they say that? Republicans in Name Only; Patriots in their mind only....

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    Re: What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of Amer



    Thanks for sharing.. I don't usually agree with Stossel, but he got it right this time. A couple of good examples....

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    Re: What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of Amer

    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinWillers View Post
    Many factors affect one's outlook about various things - history, current events, politics, religion, media, family & friends, personal character traits, life experiences, environment, upbringing, education, etc. etc. etc.

    Just curious. Nothing ulterior, just curiosity.

    What is your outlook re the future of the United States of America - and maybe why?

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    I picked somewhat optimistic because most of the time I really do TRY to be optimistic about the future of the country. Things really do seem dismal at times, but I try to look at life like a roller coaster.

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    Re: What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of Amer

    Quote Originally Posted by NoC_T View Post
    Richest, most powerful country on the planet. You're well regarded for the most part, despite all the foreign adventures. A First World democracy with enough heart to maintain a healthy dialogue of resistance and ongoing debate. I tend to view the US as a great experiment. One with every chance of limitless success. True, it's the heart of the beast from an economic standpoint, but this is inevitable as being the foremost superpower.
    That maybe how you see it, but I see it differently, every sense WWII we have been on a march to an entitlement society. Now with over 17 trillion in debt and growing by a trillion a yr we are in a death grip. There is no mood to correct this entitlement society to correct the borrowing. Thus this country is not rich or regarded as a supper power, that is relevant today by other powers.

    You've basically got it made. Realise where you're well off. Most of the world eats three square of dust and insects.
    This statement is ludicrous, who the hell is going to pay our debt back, let alone stop the borrowing. Let me tell you, nobody, we are totally dependent on government, our will to succeed as a nation is over. We are in decline more so than ever before. All the countries are taking us to task. Take Russia, that tells Obama what to do, and others, which are many, which have no concern of a US interruption of their growing terrorist buildup.

    This country has lost it's economic power but also it's position in the world. We are considered just another country trying to survive.

    Remember the poster "We Can Do It" that was when we were a country that pulled together, not anymore. This country will never be like those days of "We Can Do It." Those days are over.
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    Re: What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of Amer

    I see the battle between management and labor has been won by management. That means the Corporations will only pay the least possible amount to Labor. The Corporatocracy will continue to buy our politicians until we are busted and then they will take the money and run. Corporate allegiance is to the strong currency. It is International business, not American business. We're screwed, and that doesn't even touch on Global Warming. Very pessimistic. Guess who will wind up paying for all the USA indebtedness?

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    Re: What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of Amer

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    Neo-malthusians need to go away forever.
    All evidence points to the Malthusian prediction being premature, but not wrong. The benefits of the Green Revolution are being maxed out at a time when Asia is vying for the same standard of living as the United States. Oil exploration is becoming more precarious and politically volatile. A resource crisis is inevitable unless our energy economy evolves and we start accounting for environmental degradation as part of input costs.

    The writing is on the wall.

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    Re: What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of Amer

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Light View Post
    All evidence points to the Malthusian prediction being premature, but not wrong. The benefits of the Green Revolution are being maxed out at a time when Asia is vying for the same standard of living as the United States. Oil exploration is becoming more precarious and politically volatile. A resource crisis is inevitable unless our energy economy evolves and we start accounting for environmental degradation as part of input costs.

    The writing is on the wall.
    That is only true until it's not, which it never is. Every single malthusian prediction of the past century has been soundly and decisively rebuffed by advances in technology, efficiency, and the contribution of human genius. There is no reason to believe that the multitude of approaches now under serious development and commercialization will not once again yield for us the same liberating results that centuries of similar prior accomplishments have yielded. The malthusian is always wrong because the malthusian treats humans as nothing more than mouths to feed, bodies to clothe, and resources to consume. It is why they have always missed the great developments that urge our civilization forward.

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