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    Re: What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of Amer

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    No country has ever been perfect but no country in modern times has been criticized as much as the United States, despite all the obvious competition out there.. A lot of this is a result of the leftover leftists from the Cold War, who swallowed the Communist anti-American propaganda whole, while others simply don't know what they have and are willing to throw it away on a whim, believing that somehow they deserve more than America is giving them. The loss of State Rights, and the growth in the power of the Federal Government will also become a bigger issue in the coming years. Of course the increase in the national debt is the silent stalker always looming ever closer.

    It's difficult to remain optimistic when the will to change, in sufficient numbers, is obviously not there.
    Yes, I agree. It is getting harder and harder to be an optimist. JFK would be crucified today for saying" Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country." Way too many people look at Uncle Sam as they mommy and daddy and mommy and daddy is suppose to give them everything the need and want. Too many people are unwilling to give Uncle Sam anything in return. Such is the state of our country today.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of Amer

    I think many people have been conditioned to see the end of an empire as synonymous with a country's bloody collapse, as if by the United States no longer being on top hordes of shirtless Visigoth warriors will automatically descend upon us, take our women and burn our buildings to the ground. Yes, our country is in decline and yes, others' stars are rising, but just as France and Britain are fine, we'll be fine too. Probably the most inconvenient changes we'll face is looking to other countries for buying our services and products, and having to learn other languages more than we currently are.

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    Re: What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of Amer

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    I'm more than willing to be optimistic if you can offer some support for your optimism..
    Richest, most powerful country on the planet. You're well regarded for the most part, despite all the foreign adventures. A First World democracy with enough heart to maintain a healthy dialogue of resistance and ongoing debate. I tend to view the US as a great experiment. One with every chance of limitless success. True, it's the heart of the beast from an economic standpoint, but this is inevitable as being the foremost superpower.

    You've basically got it made. Realise where you're well off. Most of the world eats three square of dust and insects.

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    Re: What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of Amer

    Quote Originally Posted by Chocolate View Post
    Oh.. wow I had no idea... I suppose it makes sense back then woman took care of the kids while the dad made the food. now there is double the workers because of the influx of woman working and the job market can't handle it so they lower the paychecks to compensate for more workers... I had no idea but at the same time I think I support the idea of woman being equal in everyway... I'll have to think about this thank you for your reply
    Having a parent at home focused on caring for children was never an option for many of the very poor, although some poor women worked on farms with their children or could do piecework at home. Also, child labor and very little education was quite common. The at-home mother focused on caring for the kids was a luxury primarilly for the middle class or richer, and many of them had slaves or servants who handled much of the childcare.

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    Re: What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of Amer

    Pretty pessimistic, all things considered. The U.S. will always be around but it's going to be a second rate nation. Our financial elites and politicians have completely sold us out. Since big corporations own most of the capital now, it's hard for anyone else to enter new markets but them. Our economic way of life involving a vibrant middle class is being supplanted by a new kind of plutocracy. I'm sure somewhere down the line humanity will rebel again, like they did with the monarchs. It just sucks that we have to keep going through this cycle before we just create a system that looks at the long-term benefit of humans and this entire planet.

    Most western nations have invested heavily in China's shadow economy because of how cheap it makes their goods. Once China goes bust, the dominoes will really fall.

    The world is really looking at the gradual end of the growth model, and it's a good thing. Given the realities of resource limitations that we now understand, a system where there is 0% growth or something close to it would be a lot more ideal. People who sacrifice huge amounts of resources for short-term gain should be criminals.

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    Re: What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of Amer

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Light View Post
    Pretty pessimistic, all things considered. The U.S. will always be around but it's going to be a second rate nation. Our financial elites and politicians have completely sold us out. Since big corporations own most of the capital now, it's hard for anyone else to enter new markets but them. Our economic way of life involving a vibrant middle class is being supplanted by a new kind of plutocracy. I'm sure somewhere down the line humanity will rebel again, like they did with the monarchs. It just sucks that we have to keep going through this cycle before we just create a system that looks at the long-term benefit of humans and this entire planet.

    Most western nations have invested heavily in China's shadow economy because of how cheap it makes their goods. Once China goes bust, the dominoes will really fall.

    The world is really looking at the gradual end of the growth model, and it's a good thing. Given the realities of resource limitations that we now understand, a system where there is 0% growth or something close to it would be a lot more ideal. People who sacrifice huge amounts of resources for short-term gain should be criminals.
    Neo-malthusians need to go away forever.

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    Re: What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of Amer

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    I'm in the "somewhat pessimistic" column, due to our long term economic outlook and our government debt.
    My vote too. I would add the disappearance of our industrial/manufacturing sector, a shift in attitudes favoring making excuses for failure rather than working to avoid or get out of it, and the massive numbers of people receiving and expecting the government provide for them.

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    Re: What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of Amer

    For the US government, I don't have much hope. The statists have gotten control, so it will eventually go the way of all empires and collapse.

    For the people of America, I am optimistic. Once they are free, they will prosper.

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    Re: What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of Amer

    OK maybe I'm gonna get attacked but here is my opinion for what America better do and it will be great again.

    1. Stop fighting always. If one side will try to do something the other side will stop it. Even if it is best for America one side will not let the other side do it.

    2. Get an actual foreign policy that is fair and stop changing it every six minutes. Fair means you stop blindly supporting Israel. It is OK to be friends and to support Israel but when you excuse war crimes it makes you an accomplice to war crimes.

    3. Stop installing murdering regimes such as Saddam and Pinochet and others. When you do it then you are responsible for the murders and people begin to hate you as much as the regime you installed. And their hate does not end after the regime is ended.

    4. Stop yelling you are the greatest nation on the world. Every time you say it you are saying that all we are inferior to Americans. It is arrogant, obnoxious and false. If your cousin said every time that he is the greatest person ever you will stop inviting him.

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    Re: What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of Amer

    Quote Originally Posted by tiki View Post
    OK maybe I'm gonna get attacked but here is my opinion for what America better do and it will be great again.

    1. Stop fighting always. If one side will try to do something the other side will stop it. Even if it is best for America one side will not let the other side do it.

    2. Get an actual foreign policy that is fair and stop changing it every six minutes. Fair means you stop blindly supporting Israel. It is OK to be friends and to support Israel but when you excuse war crimes it makes you an accomplice to war crimes.

    3. Stop installing murdering regimes such as Saddam and Pinochet and others. When you do it then you are responsible for the murders and people begin to hate you as much as the regime you installed. And their hate does not end after the regime is ended.

    4. Stop yelling you are the greatest nation on the world. Every time you say it you are saying that all we are inferior to Americans. It is arrogant, obnoxious and false. If your cousin said every time that he is the greatest person ever you will stop inviting him.
    It's always interesting to have European input.

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