View Poll Results: What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of America?

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  • Somewhat Optimistic

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  • Dunno

    11 7.91%
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    47 33.81%
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    Re: What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of Amer

    Quote Originally Posted by Chocolate View Post
    Desabalized Society? I'm not from the USA I recently moved here but I am curious why you believe that. I though feminism movement was to be able to vote and work with the same wages as men... I don't know how that could destroy the family lifestyle.... could you eleborate ?
    That was first wave feminism, of which I am a very big promotor of. The current feminist ideology demonizes men and puts them constantly on the defensive. Young men today are lead to believe they are evil.. Sexual predators, murderers, rapists, just bad people. Men in western society are the lowest of the low even in their own opinions. It's really crazy that the feminist doctorine has been so successful as to even convince some men that they are complete pigs and worthless themselves. I have never seen a group of people in history that has been successfully subjigated by their own kind. It's called the "white knight" syndrome. It is a sad sad state of affairs where men place women on pedestals allowing them to act however they want. It has gotten so bad that even the judicial system supports their anti male, disgusting behavior. Just go to a bar or club on any night and you will see this white knight bullcrap being acted out right infront of your eyes.
    - There was never a good war, or a bad peace.
    - Idealistically, everything should work as you planed it to. Realistically, it depends on how idealistic you are as to the measure of success.
    - Better to be a pessimist before, and an optimist afterwords.

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    Re: What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of Amer

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    That's your opinion.

    Which you are entitled to and with which I and the majority of Americans disagree.

    Misogyny has done a lot more damage to the USA than feminism ever did.




    "Tolerance is giving to every other human being every right that you claim for yourself." ~ Robert Green Ingersoll
    Really? Although I agree that it is good that it is nearly gone from society, it has not done near the damage the current feminist movement has done. Crime rates are much higher now then they were back in 50's and 60's.. More children are born out of wedlock and divorces are at an all time high.. I don't see how anyone could possibly say things have improved under feminism for society as a whole.
    - There was never a good war, or a bad peace.
    - Idealistically, everything should work as you planed it to. Realistically, it depends on how idealistic you are as to the measure of success.
    - Better to be a pessimist before, and an optimist afterwords.

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    Re: What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of Amer

    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinWillers View Post
    Many factors affect one's outlook about various things - history, current events, politics, religion, media, family & friends, personal character traits, life experiences, environment, upbringing, education, etc. etc. etc.

    Just curious. Nothing ulterior, just curiosity.

    What is your outlook re the future of the United States of America - and maybe why?

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    As a non-American, I am somewhat optimistic about the future of the USA. In America, I admire, despite all shortcomings, errors and sins, the unbroken optimism and the American capacity for self-correction.

    America has been in crisis many times, yet it has always managed to get out of it again on its own. America has made many serious mistakes in the past, yet always corrected them eventually.

    America may be arrogant, self-absorbed and totally idiotic rather often, yet it has a much better historical track record than my country, and I'm inclined to say, probably most other countries on this planet. I like Germany today more than America, which isn't surprising, as Germany is my home. But if things really get tough, I have the weird feeling that America would react better on it than my people. America may go too far, but it has always known when too far is becoming way too far and stopped. Germans would go way too far.

    So yeah, I trust America and its future more than I like it.
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    Re: What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of Amer

    lulz

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    Re: What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of Amer

    A country without morals doesn't have a hope.
    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinWillers View Post
    Many factors affect one's outlook about various things - history, current events, politics, religion, media, family & friends, personal character traits, life experiences, environment, upbringing, education, etc. etc. etc.

    Just curious. Nothing ulterior, just curiosity.

    What is your outlook re the future of the United States of America - and maybe why?

    Very Optimistic
    Somewhat Optimistic
    Dunno
    Somewhat Pessimistic
    Very Pessimistic

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    Re: What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of Amer

    I voted a somewhat pessimistic view of America's future. I have some opinions as to why America is going in the wrong direction. One thing I've seen in my own state in california. Large areas of our state have been colonized by the third world. Mostly Mexico. People coming here with few skills and hungry children = relying heavily on social services. Huge cost to taxpayer. And we have to build schools to accomodate them and then teach them the language. All this costs big bucks especially when building schools to accomodate the increased enrollment and the schools have to be built to earthquake specs. I was born near the end of WW2 and growing up in the 50's, there were always a few immigrant students. Mostly European. They usually didn't speak english but they learned it in a few weeks. Total immersion. That's how it's done. How to teach english total immersion when everybody in the school is speaking spanish. So now you have to have separate education programs. Still, after all this, hispanics have a poor graduation rate.This is one of my opinions of why the country is going down the wrong path. Can't help the whole world. Take care of your own. And now politicians want to amnesty millions more? Crazy!! Not trying to be racist or demean anybody. I was married to an hispanic lady and also learned spanish fairly well myself. I said I joined this forum to figure things out, maybe share opinions. Anybody want to argue against what I say, then let's go.

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