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    Re: What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of Amer

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Sure. If you are going to starve government of funds, then cut services immediately. That means services to schools, the elderly, emergency, health etc....most of the other expenditures came from fees. Perhaps, if folks had to pay a $600.00 fee to have their children ride a school bus to school for a family with say three children. Then include fees for school books, technology, specials etc....they would see it's not for free and spreading the cost makes logical sense. Not having those costs paid simply means no services. PERIOD
    If these 'services' are unaffordable, and the government can't live within its means, perhaps other solutions should be looked at.

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    Re: What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of Amer

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    If these 'services' are unaffordable, and the government can't live within its means, perhaps other solutions should be looked at.
    Let me guess....cutting services? How about no public transportation to and from school?

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    Re: What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of Amer

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Let me guess....cutting services? How about no public transportation to and from school?
    Fine by me. Locally, there are no free bus rides. They offer busses and it costs about $500 a year for a student to ride the bus for the year. Can't pay, find some other way to get your kid to school.
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    Re: What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of Amer

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    In effect, it demonstrates that Californians couldn't live within their means.
    Oh, we could, it's just that the liberals have mangled the state to an incredible degree. California is a microcosm of what would happen to the U.S. if unrestrained liberalism was allowed to run rampant, which is unfortunately what's happened under Obama.
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    Re: What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of Amer

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Fine by me. Locally, there are no free bus rides. They offer busses and it costs about $500 a year for a student to ride the bus for the year. Can't pay, find some other way to get your kid to school.
    Should I be surprised? At a town meeting, people had a choice to pay what amounted to every child being able to get and to and from school and would cost the average tax payer less than one cup of coffee a week. Instead, they rather have families with children pay up to $800.00 for that service. People have grown way to self centered.

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    Re: What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of Amer

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Should I be surprised? At a town meeting, people had a choice to pay what amounted to every child being able to get and to and from school and would cost the average tax payer less than one cup of coffee a week. Instead, they rather have families with children pay up to $800.00 for that service. People have grown way to self centered.
    The people who think that the world owes them freebies? Absolutely they've grown too self-centered. Whatever happened to personal responsibility? Oh yeah, that's a bad word for liberal-types.
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    Re: What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of Amer

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    The people who think that the world owes them freebies? Absolutely they've grown too self-centered. Whatever happened to personal responsibility? Oh yeah, that's a bad word for liberal-types.
    That's garbage. The irony is someone paid it forward for their children to ride a school bus. It's this generation that's priorities are so f@cked up that a cup of coffee each week is more important.

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    Re: What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of Amer

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    That's garbage. The irony is someone paid it forward for their children to ride a school bus. It's this generation that's priorities are so f@cked up that a cup of coffee each week is more important.
    Who "paid it forward"? Certainly not the parents, who are personally responsible for their children. So who is it that supposedly agreed to pay for the transportation of other people's children?
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    Re: What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of Amer

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Who "paid it forward"? Certainly not the parents, who are personally responsible for their children. So who is it that supposedly agreed to pay for the transportation of other people's children?
    Everyone pays it forward.

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    Re: What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of Amer

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Everyone pays it forward.
    Not necessarily. Certainly everyone pays into the common pool of tax money, but each person can make their views known what they wish the pool of tax money used for and the largest number of people can vote into office a representative who will use it for what they wish it used for. So again, who is it that specifically agreed to use tax money for other people's children's transportation, or is this just something *YOU* want and you think everyone should agree with you?
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