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    Re: What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of Amer

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    A crock of BS. You have not stated different per pupil spending!!! You just tried to pull an ad hominem with mine. GO ahead, I dare you to post something saying CA is different in per pupil spending than what is reported by several other sources. Go ahead....give me ONE. TIA
    I already have. Not my first rodeo rabbit, so your demand doesn't change anything. It's apparent logic is lost in the face of the Progressive sources you've chosen to believe. They count on that.

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    Re: What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of Amer

    I'm somewhat both pessimistic and optimistic.

    The country is too big to go down suddenly from a sweeping financial decline. Some parts of the economy are doing better than other parts. Like there's been a big uptick in energy production. Just because the News Media likes to "shock & awe" with Headlines for ratings doesn't mean everything is as bad as they portray.

    We have big debt publicly, privately and failing social programs though with different initiatives being undertaken eventually much of this will be worked out. I think right now we're stuck in a holding pattern somewhat where if we try to reverse debt too suddenly we cause other parts of the economy to be dragged down. Events and situations will ebb and flow as they have historically but the USA could be at the precipice of losing the global domination we've enjoyed for the last several decades.
    Einstein, "science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."

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    Re: What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of Amer

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    I already have. Not my first rodeo rabbit, so your demand doesn't change anything. It's apparent logic is lost in the face of the Progressive sources you've chosen to believe. They count on that.
    Continuing to use ad Hominem shouldn't be confused with presenting evidence.

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    Re: What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of Amer

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Continuing to use ad Hominem shouldn't be confused with presenting evidence.
    Continuing to ignore presented evidence doesn't change the end result, regardless of how hard you want to try.

    You're welcome to believe what you read from the sources you chose, and I will continue to the same. I prefer accuracy.

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    Re: What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of Amer

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Continuing to ignore presented evidence doesn't change the end result, regardless of how hard you want to try.

    You're welcome to believe what you read from the sources you chose, and I will continue to the same. I prefer accuracy.
    I see no numbers. Where are your numbers?

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    Re: What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of Amer

    Not one of those links shows that CA pays more per pupil spending than other states. The fact is they do not. They are 49th. You give me a link on construction bonds and my question to you is what state does not use bonds to help pay for school infrastructure??? Also, most states also have pensions for teachers so you can't use that as a CA has to pay pensions so we really pay more toward pupil spending.

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    Re: What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of Amer

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Not one of those links shows that CA pays more per pupil spending than other states. The fact is they do not. They are 49th. You give me a link on construction bonds and my question to you is what state does not use bonds to help pay for school infrastructure??? Also, most states also have pensions for teachers so you can't use that as a CA has to pay pensions so we really pay more toward pupil spending.
    Gee, what a surprise, your still obsessed with not facing reality.

    I guess all the spending on education can't be used to figure all the spending on education.

    So let's play the Progressive game developed and written by the Unions and Professional Adminstrators.

    Where do your sources indicate California ranks against other states when all actual spending on education is factored in?

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    Re: What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of Amer

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post

    Where do your sources indicate California ranks against other states when all actual spending on education is factored in?
    Ha, I'm still waiting for your numbers. None of your links give me this ranking.

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    Re: What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of Amer

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Ha, I'm still waiting for your numbers. None of your links give me this ranking.
    Well, I'm waiting for yours. So there you go.

    Got to love the Progressive approach though. $35 billion in new school construction over the last 8 years, among the highest paid teachers in the United States, a 40% of state budget Constitutional mandate for school spending, massive unfunded teacher pension liabilities, etc, and none of that is considered education related, and in fact, the Progs claim California is 49th in spending.

    Only the insane would buy any part of that.

    Interesting how when I ask what your sources indicate, you dodge the question. Just more from the script.

    I'm certainly not interested in waisting any more effort here.

    Thanks for the lesson I admit I was too slow to learn.

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