Last edited by shrubnose; 01-15-14 at 03:55 PM.
“Most people do not listen with the intent to understand; they listen with the intent to reply.”
― Stephen R. Covey
Seems like Americans have less faith in their country's future than foreigners do.
That's ****ed up.
Originally Posted by Kreton;1062798281[B
And if that's not the way that it turns out, then your point goes in the 'round file', eh?
Somewhat optimistic mostly because of my daughter and the rise of information leaks.
"We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that’s crazy." -Reagan
You apparently are not a aware the Dems of 30 years ago had a bench that included Ted Kennedy, Walter Mondale, Gary Hart, George McGovern, William Proxmire, Alan Cranston, Daniel Patrick Moynihan, Paul Tsongas, Bill Bradley, Howard Metenbaum..... most of these senators would have no prayer of even being nominated at Dems today as they are far too liberal by 2014 standards. Sorry, but Dems, like the Cons have lurched far to the right over the past 30 years.... The party is scarily devoid of liberals that could be elected to national office.
BTW...the economy in California is doing ok,,,,
If you want to blame Democratic leadership for the perception it is screwed up, do you credit democratic leadership if it is, in fact, firming up?
Oh, I'm quite the student of political history, especially the political history of California. As it is, the issue is Progressivism, and the dominating position this philosophy has taken in the Democrat agenda.
As to who is more left, I think the actions taken Democrats in power over recent years to establish the ruling of citizens by unanswerable Regulatory Agencies firmly establishes todays Democrats as rather extreme leftists.
As far a California is concerned, the reporting of the economics here, as created by the liberal/progressives in control, should be considered a crime of omission. The surplus being reported only exists because the Progressives decided not to pay back the billions they borrowed from things like the Highway Fund, to balance previous budgets. This doesn't begin to include the deferred payments in the amounts of billions to meet minimum funding standards for public employee pay and benefits.
Then there is the train to nowhere the Unions are forcing Progressives to continue pushing, against the will of the people who were lied to, and which is projected to cost the state billions of dollars every year to subsidize.
No, California is indeed the petrie dish, and the stench can't be hidden, despite the delusion of those who desperately defend the carnage.
To her Wall Street owners: Hillary Clinton: “But if everybody's watching, you know, all of the back room discussions and the deals, you know, then people get a little nervous, to say the least. so, you need both a public and a private position.” - Hillary Clinton: "I'm kind of far removed from the struggles of the Middle Class"