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    Re: What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of Amer

    Quote Originally Posted by loader View Post
    Wait and see. I am not a prophet. Maybe this way and tha
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    That sounds pretty reasonable to me.

    Have a nice day.




    I'm going to keep hoping that the future turns out good for everyone in the USA, from the top to the bottom.

    I don't wish hard luck on anyone.
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    Re: What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of Amer

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    That is your opinion.

    Which you are entitled to and I will ignore.




    "The only valid censorship of ideas is the right of people not to listen." ~ Tommy Smothers
    Remember that next time you decide to post drivel.

    I'm not against optimism I just live in realville.

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    Re: What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of Amer

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Peoples opinion on that varies depending upon their income level.

    Those at the top would probably say that greed is making the USA a better place.

    It all depends upon a persons point of view.
    If those at the top are the only ones happy then my point stands.
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    Re: What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of Amer

    Seems like Americans have less faith in their country's future than foreigners do.

    That's ****ed up.

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    Re: What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of Amer

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    The Tea Party will disappear in the next thirty years.

    Wait and see.
    Is that "wishful thinking", shrubnose? Or just possitive thinking?

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    Re: What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of Amer

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton;1062798281[B
    ]If those at the top are the only ones happy then my point stands.
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    And if that's not the way that it turns out, then your point goes in the 'round file', eh?

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    Re: What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of Amer

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    Is that "wishful thinking", shrubnose? Or just possitive thinking? :
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    It's what I actually believe is going to happen.

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    Re: What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of Amer

    Somewhat optimistic mostly because of my daughter and the rise of information leaks.
    "We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that’s crazy." -Reagan

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    Re: What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of Amer

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Well, certainly Democrats share nothing in common with what was called Democrat 30 years ago. For example, the radicals known as Progressives have infected the Democrat party, and seem hellbent on creating more economic problems like they have in California. When the citizens in the other 49 states truley understand the damage they are causing, they will eliminate the movement, just as it was eliminated in the early 1900's.

    IMO, these are cyclic societal outbreaks that are no different than those of the past, and from which the country will return from, as it continues with it's capitalist and freedom focused foundation.
    You are obviously not a student of political history.

    You apparently are not a aware the Dems of 30 years ago had a bench that included Ted Kennedy, Walter Mondale, Gary Hart, George McGovern, William Proxmire, Alan Cranston, Daniel Patrick Moynihan, Paul Tsongas, Bill Bradley, Howard Metenbaum..... most of these senators would have no prayer of even being nominated at Dems today as they are far too liberal by 2014 standards. Sorry, but Dems, like the Cons have lurched far to the right over the past 30 years.... The party is scarily devoid of liberals that could be elected to national office.

    BTW...the economy in California is doing ok,,,,

    http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfranci...ery-leads.html

    If you want to blame Democratic leadership for the perception it is screwed up, do you credit democratic leadership if it is, in fact, firming up?

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    Re: What is your level of optimism concerning the future of the United States of Amer

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    You are obviously not a student of political history.

    You apparently are not a aware the Dems of 30 years ago had a bench that included Ted Kennedy, Walter Mondale, Gary Hart, George McGovern, William Proxmire, Alan Cranston, Daniel Patrick Moynihan, Paul Tsongas, Bill Bradley, Howard Metenbaum..... most of these senators would have no prayer of even being nominated at Dems today as they are far too liberal by 2014 standards. Sorry, but Dems, like the Cons have lurched far to the right over the past 30 years.... The party is scarily devoid of liberals that could be elected to national office.

    BTW...the economy in California is doing ok,,,,

    California economic recovery leads nation - San Francisco Business Times

    If you want to blame Democratic leadership for the perception it is screwed up, do you credit democratic leadership if it is, in fact, firming up?

    Oh, I'm quite the student of political history, especially the political history of California. As it is, the issue is Progressivism, and the dominating position this philosophy has taken in the Democrat agenda.

    As to who is more left, I think the actions taken Democrats in power over recent years to establish the ruling of citizens by unanswerable Regulatory Agencies firmly establishes todays Democrats as rather extreme leftists.

    As far a California is concerned, the reporting of the economics here, as created by the liberal/progressives in control, should be considered a crime of omission. The surplus being reported only exists because the Progressives decided not to pay back the billions they borrowed from things like the Highway Fund, to balance previous budgets. This doesn't begin to include the deferred payments in the amounts of billions to meet minimum funding standards for public employee pay and benefits.

    Then there is the train to nowhere the Unions are forcing Progressives to continue pushing, against the will of the people who were lied to, and which is projected to cost the state billions of dollars every year to subsidize.

    No, California is indeed the petrie dish, and the stench can't be hidden, despite the delusion of those who desperately defend the carnage.

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