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Would You Take a Free Trip to Paris?

Would You Take a Free Trip to Paris?

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loader said:
Caliph Omar mosque stands on the foundation of the Temple David. Sultanahmet Blue Mosque in Constantinople (Istanbul) stands on the foundation of church of Hagia Sophia. And place of Notre Dame de Paris will soon face a mosque.
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What?

I've been to Istanbul, and I can assure you the Aya Sophia stands...as well as the Blue Mosque.

The Aya Sophia is probably the most incredible structure I've ever been in. And I've been on five Continents.
 
The German said:
One of the reasons why central streets in European cities such as the "Ringstraße" in Vienna or the "Champs Elysees" in Paris are so long and wide is because they were constructed during the 19th and 18th century.

Not for the purpose of parades, but after having expiriences with revolutions these streets were perfect for stationing heavy artilery on them for crowdcontrol.

Just another boring historical fact.
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The Royal Mile in Edinburgh is actually even more fascinating. Essentially, the city of Edinburgh, back before it boomed, was all built on one long spine of rock that went from the castle at the top down a long slope towards Holyrood Abbey (later Holyrood Palace) at the bottom. And the entire city was built on this rock spine, along this one main road, with tons of warrens and closes and little alleyways that made it nearly vertical. So Edinburgh's long main street is actually really old -- as old as Edinburgh itself, in many ways, which has been inhabited for potentially thousands of years (but definitely by 800 CE). Pretty cool, eh?
 
Ad_Captandum said:
The Royal Mile is, believe it or not, a mile long, and so there are plenty of pubs along it. Curiously, if you're walking up towards the castle, most of them tend to be on the right side, unless I'm forgetting some.

Some of the more famous ones, and perhaps one of the ones you discovered, are Deacon Brodie's Tavern, the Albanach, the Kilderkin... Maybe one of those? Anyway, glad you had a good time -- I'm a pretty big fan of Edinburgh myself!
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Aha! The Albanach. That's it. Wonderful time there. The patrons and the bar staff were friendly and the beer was very good. Too good. The Albanach is on the right then heading toward the castle? As I said we were well into our pints. :mrgreen:
 
The German said:
The Louvre museum was one of the most grotesk sights I ever had in my life.

It cemented my opinion that mankind didn`t know how to appreciate art, when I watched hundreds of people buy expensive tickets and crowd up for hours to make one single picture of a Mona Lisa hidden behind thick glass.

And to then simply leave the museum after having made that pick.........




Whilest some of the most impressive and amazing European artworks of the past 800 years, stolen by Napoleon between 1792 and 1812 from all over the continent and beyond was on display just a few more steps away.

Mankind is doomed.
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that's where I first got familiar with the raft of Medusa. probably the first time I learned to really appreciate art
 
Ad_Captandum said:
I don't really know what you're saying. Who's occupying Paris?

And what does 'Some Like It Hot' have to do with it?

I don't believe you're from New Jersey -- why can't you form cogent sentences in English?
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I'm not from New Jersey. :shock: You can see my address under my avatar.
Americans twice saved the French from the Germans occupation. But now they in trouble. Nobody save them from the Arab occupation. U.S. occupied too. By vicious liberals of all stripes.
 
This has to be some kind of set up thing...
 
The German said:
Paris is one of the most disgusting cities in Europe.

An extremly rich center in which you cant even buy a bottle of water for under 4 euros, surrounded by blocks of flats filled with muggers and cutthroats.

Everyone who has been there knows that for the past 20 years, Paris is simply feces with a little bit of gold dust sprinkeld over it.

If you make a Eurotrip, go to: Madrid, Barcelona, Prag, Gdanzk, Warsaw, Berlin, Leipzig, Hamburg, Rotterdamn, London, Göteburg, Kopenhagen, Milan, Rome, Rimini and if it has to be France - go to Toulouse.
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If I get back I really want to hit Scandinavia, Highland and Hebres Scotland and Austria/Switzerland. I have been to France and northern Italy (mostly French Riviera) and it was great but those other areas always held an interest for me.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
It is now 68 and raining here in Uhland, TX. Forecast is for highs in the low 70s for the weekend (and no more rain) so I can finish up my current roofing job. ;)
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It has been in the 70's here all winter... sunny too. Damn, I hate Southern California weather! And then we head back to summer where we live in a few days. :lol:
 
Bodhisattva said:
This has to be some kind of set up thing...
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You bet. Paris is great without the French, but I question the improvement if the Arabs are going to be the replacement. We already had the Nazis, and nobody was happy with that, either. However, you just know this is leading somewhere.
 
Ad_Captandum said:
Yes, that's the spirit -- do what even Hitler wouldn't, and bomb one of the world's most beautiful cities out of jealousy and vague political disagreement.
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I'm certain through the bomb site, I'll see the millions of white flags... then I'd stand down. Jealous? of weaklings and cowards? Hardly.
 
ChrisL said:
But it's FREE.
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There is a whole world a person could visit, unlimited choices most of which would be interesting and offer different benefits. But a person's lifetime is not unlimited. We travel, but also have limited travel time. For us, a trip to Paris would mean not taking a trip somewhere else.

Playing tourist isn't something I particularly care to do and while each big city offers what it offers, personally I enjoy it more when we fit in and can interact/talk with other people. What does Paris really offer that a person has to go there to see that is so superior?

If it were a situation that we couldn't travel without it being free, that would be a different matter. But our limitations on traveling are not economic, the limitation is time. So it's not about the $$. Paris is not on our future list of places we want to travel to.
 
For lovers to go to Paris specifically.

Arabs beaten American student on the streets of Paris.

 
joko104 said:
There is a whole world a person could visit, unlimited choices most of which would be interesting and offer different benefits. But a person's lifetime is not unlimited. We travel, but also have limited travel time. For us, a trip to Paris would mean not taking a trip somewhere else.

Playing tourist isn't something I particularly care to do and while each big city offers what it offers, personally I enjoy it more when we fit in and can interact/talk with other people. What does Paris really offer that a person has to go there to see that is so superior?

If it were a situation that we couldn't travel without it being free, that would be a different matter. But our limitations on traveling are not economic, the limitation is time. So it's not about the $$. Paris is not on our future list of places we want to travel to.
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Have you ever been there? I don't know why someone would pass up an experience like that if it was offered for free.
 
I can fly there free any time I want, other places more interesting.
 
Especially if the hotel and visa arrangement is included with minimal (i.e., I give you my passport you handle everything else) effort, in the ticket price I could travel a few hours to Paris, France by bus even.
 
joko104 said:
Playing tourist isn't something I particularly care to do and while each big city offers what it offers, personally I enjoy it more when we fit in and can interact/talk with other people. What does Paris really offer that a person has to go there to see that is so superior?
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The challenges of being a tourist, I've found, is avoiding being corralled into all the safe, white establishments along with the rest of the Americans by the hotels and guides. Planning your trip in advance with tripadvisor is a huge tool for this. On one particularly frustrating trip, I saw the same exact Americans in the same restaurants six times. That taught me and my wife to never take the advice of concierges ever again.

That being said, sometimes a city can be sufficiently complex and alien enough that the benefits of hiring a guide outweighs being led around to all the businesses he gets a percentage from for taking paying tourists to them.
 
Ad_Captandum said:
Yeah, it's pretty pathetic, eh?

I couldn't believe a couple people said "I'm just not big into travelling." How can that be? How can you have no innate human curiosity about what another place is like?

Not to mention the one or two idiots who said "Only to bomb it" or something like that. Hell, I think the world would be better off if most of America besides New England, California and the Great Lakes just combusted, but I would never advocate bombing those places out of political disagreement.
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We travel some, but I'm not big into traveling. To travel really far to see something different when we can travel not so far, see something different, and have more time doing so for not traveling so far. A person can look at videos and pictures to see other places. And if a person is going somewhere you don't speak the language nor know the layout and demeanor of the place, there is no way to not play the tourist role and a person can get themselves into trouble too.
 
The German said:
The Louvre museum was one of the most grotesk sights I ever had in my life.

It cemented my opinion that mankind didn`t know how to appreciate art, when I watched hundreds of people buy expensive tickets and crowd up for hours to make one single picture of a Mona Lisa hidden behind thick glass.

And to then simply leave the museum after having made that pick.........

Whilest some of the most impressive and amazing European artworks of the past 800 years, stolen by Napoleon between 1792 and 1812 from all over the continent and beyond was on display just a few more steps away.

Mankind is doomed.
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I honestly didn't even make it to the Mona Lisa until like 5 minutes before close. :shrug:

There's actually a lot of great artwork at the Louvre.
 
Cardinal said:
The challenges of being a tourist, I've found, is avoiding being corralled into all the safe, white establishments along with the rest of the Americans by the hotels and guides. Planning your trip in advance with tripadvisor is a huge tool for this. On one particularly frustrating trip, I saw the same exact Americans in the same restaurants six times. That taught me and my wife to never take the advice of concierges ever again.

That being said, sometimes a city can be sufficiently complex and alien enough that the benefits of hiring a guide outweighs being led around to all the businesses he gets a percentage from for taking paying tourists to them.
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You nailed it.

Lonely Planet is way better than tripadvisor for this, too.
 
Gathomas88 said:
I honestly didn't even make it to the Mona Lisa until like 5 minutes before close. :shrug:

There's actually a lot of great artwork at the Louvre.
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I haven't made it to the Louvre myself, and admittedly I'm already daunted by the rumors of how unwieldy it is due to the throngs of tourists. There are still some pretty awesome places you can go in Europe that haven't been utterly crapped out by tourists, St. Petersburg being an excellent example, probably because Russia is still such a pain in the ass to get a visa to.
 
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