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Would You Take a Free Trip to Paris?

Would You Take a Free Trip to Paris?


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the people who voted no need to get over themselves.
 
I don't think you're in a minority at all. Paris attracts the third most tourists of any city in the world (after Bangkok and London) so I think you're in pretty good company. Are we surprised that the Paris haters all seem to be RW Americans?

I'm amazed that people can't rise above the political propaganda and somehow believe that government adversities reflect the actual people and places that these governments represent.

Governments have become independent entities, or kingdoms if you prefer. They do what the hell they want despite their respective citizens' objections. Governments have become monsters that the people can't kill...because even the notion...and the government will kill them. Citizens are labor and financial resources for governments.

Governments are like significant others....you can't live without'em and ya can't kill'em. :lol:

My experiences throughout the places I've been in Europe - all have been good.

Thanks...
 
the people who voted no need to get over themselves.

Being the guy that just waxed his asshole, I'm not sure your criticism is going to carry much weight here, cowboy
 
I'm amazed that people can't rise above the political propaganda and somehow believe that government adversities reflect the actual people and places that these governments represent.

Governments have become independent entities, or kingdoms if you prefer. They do what the hell they want despite their respective citizens' objections. Governments have become monsters that the people can't kill...because even the notion...and the government will kill them. Citizens are labor and financial resources for governments.

Governments are like significant others....you can't live without'em and ya can't kill'em. :lol:

My experiences throughout the places I've been in Europe - all have been good.

Thanks...

You would be surprised. I did most of my traveling while GWB was in office due to some later health complications. But it was amazing how many people who would try to give me **** about being american or how many douche bag Americans I saw running around with a Canadian flag pinned to their backpacks.


As i said before, people are people, and the majority leave much to be desired. For me, I don't even let politics on the personal level needlessly become an issue. The world would be a pretty boring place if we all had the same ideas
 
You would be surprised. I did most of my traveling while GWB was in office due to some later health complications. But it was amazing how many people who would try to give me **** about being american or how many douche bag Americans I saw running around with a Canadian flag pinned to their backpacks.


As i said before, people are people, and the majority leave much to be desired. For me, I don't even let politics on the personal level needlessly become an issue. The world would be a pretty boring place if we all had the same ideas


I have lived in several countries and everyone has had good people and bad people. Being rude to tourists is not unique to any paticular country and trust me you are very likely to get abuse from an American if you are visiting the US.
 
Just a simple poll to see how many of you would take a free trip to Paris for a week if it were given to you tomorrow, to be redeemed sometime in the near future.


What's your answer, and why?

Absolutely.

France is a wonderful place. Great food. Great atmosphere. Great country. I would visit the scene river, the louvre, and the eiffel tower. I think it would be amazing.
 
You would be surprised. I did most of my traveling while GWB was in office due to some later health complications. But it was amazing how many people who would try to give me **** about being american or how many douche bag Americans I saw running around with a Canadian flag pinned to their backpacks.


As i said before, people are people, and the majority leave much to be desired. For me, I don't even let politics on the personal level needlessly become an issue. The world would be a pretty boring place if we all had the same ideas

As Rodney King said, "can't we all just get along?"

There's people in Texas who think that anybody from outside of Texas are foreigners. Well, not as much as years past, but some of the old timers are still around. I used to be that way about people who spoiled my beautiful rural community. Who the hell do they think they are moving from Dallas, Houston and San Antonio and mess with my peace and quite? WAIT! I moved here from Dallas. :lol:

Chuck, it's obvious that there's a lot of people whose territorial nature is exacerbated by politics. No matter where ya go...there they are. Shame, too. But the world is really a beautiful place. People who let their prejudices keep them from seeing our world...or even try to prevent people from experiencing theirs...dunno. Sad, really.

Now while I say it's a beautiful world, it's dangerous, too. I think people's fear keep them from appreciating this small little globe in space. Governments keep our world in chaos and disarray...and in fear. But whatawegonnado? :shrug:
 
I have lived in several countries and everyone has had good people and bad people. Being rude to tourists is not unique to any paticular country and trust me you are very likely to get abuse from an American if you are visiting the US.

No doubt. My point was human ignorance and stupidity isn't exactly a cultural phenomenon
 
That's what a lot of people like to do on vacation. My wife, for example, will sit on a beach for days on end.

That's why I travel with other people....

That's the way both me and my wife are. We go to Florida once or twice a year just to sit on the beach and relax.
 
Just admit you said you were Irish. That's the only way a Parisian will treat an English speaker as human.

I didn't have any trouble in Paris. . . and I'm painfully American.

On time my wife actually caught me whistling 'Yankee Doodle' while we were walking down down the street there.
 
I'm willing to brave most countries except those that are well known to be cartoonishly anti-American.

I don't know that those countries actually exist.
 
Just a simple poll to see how many of you would take a free trip to Paris for a week if it were given to you tomorrow, to be redeemed sometime in the near future.


What's your answer, and why?
Yes, because free is good. Plus I could travel from there to other European countries.
 
The Louvre museum was one of the most grotesk sights I ever had in my life.

It cemented my opinion that mankind didn`t know how to appreciate art, when I watched hundreds of people buy expensive tickets and crowd up for hours to make one single picture of a Mona Lisa hidden behind thick glass.

And to then simply leave the museum after having made that pick.........

Yea, we were there not long after the whole Da Vinci Code thing, there was a two hour wait to see the Mona Lisa.

However, we were able to wander through the rest of the museum almost completely uninterrupted. Thing is, the Louvre is very cavernous and there could easily be thousands of people looking through the other wings without creating any obvious crowd.




Whilest some of the most impressive and amazing European artworks of the past 800 years, stolen by Napoleon between 1792 and 1812 from all over the continent and beyond was on display just a few more steps away.

Mankind is doomed.[/QUOTE]

I'm sure mankind is doomed, but I'll enjoy the lack of traffic around all of the cool stuff that I actually want to see in the meantime.
 
I don't know that those countries actually exist.

Well, neither do I, actually. Fine, I'll amend that to "countries we have extremely tense, protracted diplomatic problems with." Or countries where kidnapped foreigners is a thing.

That being said, I'll be the first to admit that not even a fraction of my worst fears are ever validated after actually visiting a foreign country.
 
Being the guy that just waxed his asshole, I'm not sure your criticism is going to carry much weight here, cowboy

After watching the film "Brokeback Mountain" to call a person "cowboy", the same thing as gay.:thumbs:
 
After watching the film "Brokeback Mountain" to call a person "cowboy", the same thing as gay.:thumbs:


or I just like the word cowboy, captain ...
 
Well, neither do I, actually. Fine, I'll amend that to "countries we have extremely tense, protracted diplomatic problems with." Or countries where kidnapped foreigners is a thing.

That makes more sense. Generally speaking we always follow news/ elections for particular countries prior to traveling. The State Department has also a good resource for travel specific information. A while ago we had both traveled to Guatemala, but separately. After our respective trips, we had decided to travel back to the country together. However, the recent elections had put the place into turmoil and it became unsafe to travel there.

Honestly, I find that a countries internal problems are usually a bigger issue for travelers than any international relationship.

That being said, I'll be the first to admit that not even a fraction of my worst fears are ever validated after actually visiting a foreign country.

This is a good point, people place a lot of hype on the dangers of international travel. Even when I was in the military they talked heavily about force protection. . . in Singapore of all places.
 
When you go to another country you not only fall under their laws nor have citizen's rights, but police, judges and jurors are always friendly towards foreigners. Increasingly this can be particularly true concerning Americans.
 
When you go to another country you not only fall under their laws nor have citizen's rights, but police, judges and jurors are always friendly towards foreigners. Increasingly this can be particularly true concerning Americans.

We try to travel with caution. We use State Department information along with other sources. As much as there are risks in travel. I don't want to deprive myself of venturing out unless I have pretty clear evidence that tension is high or area violence is more than random.

For instance, Pakistan, Iran, Iraq, ...moving south...Egypt, Syria and other connecting countries aren't places that I would consider going.

Buenos Aries...yep...I'd go.
 
We try to travel with caution. We use State Department information along with other sources. As much as there are risks in travel. I don't want to deprive myself of venturing out unless I have pretty clear evidence that tension is high or area violence is more than random.

For instance, Pakistan, Iran, Iraq, ...moving south...Egypt, Syria and other connecting countries aren't places that I would consider going.

Buenos Aries...yep...I'd go.


That is part of the dangers of foreign travel. My daughter, whose rather "tough" (but doesn't look it), when to Costa Rico with another woman had been in offshore Coast Guard (drug interdiction ship) and a Man who had recently got out of the Marines as a combat squad leader (she defines him as "a weapon" - VERY tough). They got off on a wrong road finding themselves is what they sensed a very danger shanty-area trying to figure how to get out of there.

My point is that no matter how much caution a person can show, things can go wrong (here or in foreign countries). Also, in most foreign countries unless you have CASH or the money readily available on credit card in the event of a medical crisis or accident injury, they'll let you die as they don't treat a person without pay.

The only country we travel to is the Bahamas, for which except in a major criminal case they prefer to just ship you back to the USA and bar you ever coming back, and Miami for hospital is close for airlifting for medical care, plus since the Bahamas is a rich folks haven they do have excellent medical facility. But even there, there is the "good" parts of the Bahamas and the rest tourists are advised to stay out of.

"Staying safe" when touristing - particularly if a non-English country, a person has to fairly stay on the tourism path, which I tend not to care for.
 
Club 21 burned down a couple of years ago (October 24, 2010). We must go to up 21 to Neiderwald for that good burger now (same cook - Mike Cowan), in fact, I took one home with me this evening. His new restaurant is called Grumpy's.

Historical dance hall destroyed after car crash sets it ablaze | www.austin360.com

Too bad. It wasn't rowdy place. I mean it was sort of a family place. Kids went...out dancing on the big dance floor. It was a unique structure, that's for sure. Didn't realize it was 117 years old.
 
Too bad. It wasn't rowdy place. I mean it was sort of a family place. Kids went...out dancing on the big dance floor. It was a unique structure, that's for sure. Didn't realize it was 117 years old.

Yep, it was old. Many of the good old south Austin bars, like Beverly's and the 81 Club on South Congress have closed too. We still go to Giddy Ups occasionally or to Riley's Tavern for live music. We rarely venture north of the river into Austin.

http://www.rileystavern.com/
 
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